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Saukko

Proposal

Artifacts start at a base cost of 1E, and can have traits applied to them in a similar manner to races. Traits for artifacts may be proposed to the Council, and must be listed as such in the proposal - for example," proposal: artifact trait: indestructible x4."

A trait must exist for it to be applied, otherwise the artifact creation is put on hold.

3x as many referees to contact though, so it doesn't save you anything really. You get people who are better at networking applying, which may be important.

Map Proposal
All gods agree on a map for the various Planets. These maps shall be based on a system with squares representing a defined amount of area. Unless everybody wants to participate in the creation of the map, we create a comittee of all people who want to participate, who get to decide what is where. The shape of a land a god created can be defined by this god only, but if he is not participating, his piece of land shall be put somewhere by that map council. This proposal serves so the gods can have a knowledge where is what and such, and have a fair way of dealing with the exact details.

Saukko

Oppose

"No.

We have some immortal races being created - or will eventually - so to have an eternity of martial and arcane knowledge passed down to the next generation seems like a very foolish thing to occur, which is why I proposed the amendment."

Propose Trait: Ancestral Memory. Comes in four (technically five) levels:
-1: Creature has little to no information passed down from ancestors, and lacks everything but the most basic natural instinct. 0.8x cost.
(0: Creature has basic survival instincts passed down from ancestors, but no advanced knowledge. This is the baseline on which most creatures operate and has only been included for the sake of completeness; it's assumed everything possesses this.)
+1: Creature learns skills possessed by ancestors quickly, but not detailed information, which allows development of generally more skillful individuals (due to having effectively more practice with skills) over time. Example: A family of smiths will naturally produce children that are good smiths, even if separated at birth. 1.2x
+2: Creature retains the skill levels of previous generations, but not information. 1.5x
+3: Creature retains skills and information known by previous generations (though things can still be forgotten if not used.) 2.5x

"I would ask for amendments or suggestions, but that seems fruitless at this point. I should mention that the uneven scaling is due to the benefits ramping up faster than the levels do.

Saukko

Amendment: Only applies to non-violent (including defensive) skills, and knowledge of magic is not passed on with this trait.

Quote from: IcyTea31 on May 05, 2016, 04:07:39 pm

Quote from: Detoxicated on May 05, 2016, 03:40:49 pm

Propose Law of Cullment
If a law has not been passed for three ticks it gets erased from the list.

Conditional Oppose

"Make that five Ticks and it'll do what it's supposed to with fewer downsides."

If a law has not been passed for five ticks it gets erased from the list.

"Presumably this doesn't apply to things like traits and magic schools, then?"

There's a very specific reason. Also don't forget you can edit races. I'm being 'left behind' as much as you, I'll remind you.

So then you have nothing to complain about

The magic is necessary for the flavour I want for the race I want to create, anyway.

i'm mostly distracted by also not being able to make my stuff due to lack of Essence (my fault), and deadlock/outright opposition whenever I try to come up with a reasonable system for doing so. I should go back and add my support to the magic, though, since I personally see no issues with it.

The things you suggest usually have some element of "oh that sounds quite good" mixed in with some complicated way of applying it to the game, so that's usually why I oppose your proposals heh.