Bay 12 Games Forum

Quote from: hector13 on April 08, 2016, 09:13:54 am

What makes you think the criminals are the ones holding up the game?

Do you have a suggestion for who else it might be?

Remember your wincon? The second part of that.

You seem to have prepared well for your claim and subsequent falling back after people pointed out Rev found the mayor.

"Polygraph test! Oh wait, polygraphs are inherently unreliable, sorry."

Exactly, from your perspective. PoE isn't scumhunting, it's deductive reasoning, and it's not something you can share with us because you have different information than the rest of the town. You've shared what of your information helped you reach that conclusion, but that could all be bullshit for all the rest of us know.

You've not asked many questions so far, ergo you're not doing much scumhunting.

Starver

Quote from: hector13 on April 07, 2016, 07:12:17 pm

So... Why are you voting me Starver? Bullet points, if you please. Or a summary minus parentheses

• "Oh, yeah, I'm human... No! Only kidding, my fellow non-humans!"

I claimed Chara, probably the most evil character in the game. Indeed, the genocide run basically forces the idea that you, the player, are the real monster because you murder everything.

Chara actually ends the world though. Not a genuine claim. I was pissed about people claiming stuff on D1 all the time that ends up breaking the game for town (TBF's astigmatism last round, FoU's driver claim I think the round before that) so I made a claim that I knew the folk who had played Undertale wouldn't take seriously.

As Moonlit has said, he has confirmed my Asriel claim. We've had 8 (or 9?) rounds prior to this in which there has been only one Evil role per game. Do you think that's going to have changed this round, so both Moonkit and I are scum?

• Accepting the alibis (one actually apparently dead, one who would be unlikely to be accurate about my inactivity and be a bad guy), there's just two people to vote for.

Where did I accept FoU's alibi? I demand quotes for this, brah.

How do you expect me to question a dead man? How do you expect me to vote for a dead man, who isn't even in the vote count?

What makes you think TBF isn't dead? Mod-confirmed NK. Tomasque hasn't lead us astray in a game with his pronouncements yet.

• You don't like me voting for someone already leading the voting, and there's only one real alternative.

I actually don't like that you voted someone because I said I'd be fucked off if you didn't. It doesn't tell the town anything about you other than you're easily swayed by appeals to emotion.

You essentially wasted your vote to spare my feelings. Does that sound like a well supported argument for a vote?

• You're asking me to explain things I already clearly explained, and that's annoying.  (And meta, but it fits with everything else.)

One criticism I have of your posting style is that it is absolutely not clear. You're thoughts are all over the place, with asides in parentheses. I sometimes have to read your posts multiple times just to get an idea of what you're trying to say. Over 9 rounds, I've basically given up on reading your posts because they're so hard to decipher sometimes.

Brevity is the watchword in mafia, which is something you are not.

---

Moonlit

I'm thinking about voting FoU or Starver. FoU isn't really doing much in the way of scumhunting, and is forgetting to mention that he hasn't been cleared by the rest of us. He also isn't cleared from having performed the NK.

Starver's reasons for voting me appear to be utterly nonsense. Looks like he's looking for any old thing to try to get me lynched, which is either confirmation bias as town, or scum trying to convince the rest of you for a mislynch.

Bonus Round - Day 2
 In spite of their efforts to protect themselves, the killings continued. One death in particular caught their eye. It was human.

TheBiggerFish was killed in the night!
TheBiggerFish was Frisk.

Spoiler: Frisk (click to show/hide)

Frisk
Why did you go near that mountain in the first place? Well, now you're down here, and it looks like the only thing to do is to find your way out.
Archetype: Neutral role
Wincon: You win if you survive until the end of the round.

(n) Mercy: If your target would Night Kill you, their action fails immediately.

Here's that roleflip you wanted!
Votecount
hector13 (0)
FallacyofUrist (0)
Starver (0)
The Moonlit Shadow (0)

---

Day ends Friday 9:00 PM PST
              Saturday 5:00 AM GMT

He was killed during the night, and he's not part of the vote count. He's out this round, barring nonsense.

No, because you could be lying about your claim.

Proper scumhunting might encourage me to think differently.

Bear in mind this is a bastard game. I imagine that OSG has thought up some unpleasant things to happen if we are mayor-less too long, especially given wincons being no way for someone else to take the mayor's position.

Perhaps someone has a role or ability that forces ballots?

Perhaps there are more candidates?

Also, does anyone have any information on the mysterious arsonist DA is hunting?

I don't like you're assumption that there's a cult. What makes you think there's a cult? You haven't said yet. I would quite like you to answer all the other questions too. I didn't ask them for the good of my health, you know...

It seems that our trackers managed to track each other tracking Rev. I find this situation to be incredibly funny