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Mafia / Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« on: February 26, 2016, 07:47:52 pm »
Yes, I was ice cream man, and yes, I wanted to reduce the power of the best players. I suppose you are a role that gets rid of any role of a person who targets you?

You do realise that only one of them can be scum at any one time, aye?

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DA: I still don't trust you and think that you're a cultist, but we've got more important things to do for now. Such as lynch mafia (or cult leader). Both of which you aren't (unless of some cult leader role that passes to the newest convert.) So Unvote.

Everyone: I'd like to know if someone can get rid of NQT's Shakerage Shenanigans role. Don't tell us how if you don't want to - you may have reasons for hiding it AKA might tell scum too much. Anyone?

What might they tell the scum? The scum are affected by the role too, y'know.

Speaking of roles that stop people from winning: TDS. Very inactive. Dropped a 'Who can get rid of roles?' question, which if he'd been paying attention he'd know Shakerag did. Before that, remarked on me and DA early, before most others. Thought I was Jester at first, meaning he's not paying attention again.

What do you think this all means?

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Mafia / Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« on: February 26, 2016, 07:39:28 pm »
NQT

An alignment cop would likely be town in this instance, as the scum know who the town is so wouldn't need to inspect others.
Shakerag picked alignment cop in the last game as a cover. Doesn't mean he couldn't have been scum.

I know, but I don't particularly want to fill in the blanks for people who haven't already thought of them in case they use the ideas later when they're scum, aye?

Just because I think something's likely, doesn't mean I think it's actually the case.

NQT: what's with the loaded questions?
What's loaded about any of the questions?

Hector, say I'm a cop, would you like it if I inspected you?

The optimal answer is "yes". Saying "no" implies you have something to hide. Question could thus be reworded "do you want me to think that you have anything you want to hide?"

Deus, would you be more threatened by a player who claimed to a have a reactive role or a proactive role (i.e. a role that does something to people targeting them, vs. a role that targets people)?

Answering "reactive" implies the person likely has a proactive ability. Answering "proactive" is a bit more open to interpretation, and could potentially be analysed wrong a lot more often than it could be analysed correctly (a person not wanting to have a kill action applied to them, for example, being misconstrued as scum because they don't want to be inspected/blocked etc.)

It's a pussyfoot rolefish, really.

Persus, Shakerag claims to have a goo role. Do you think goos will be popular?

"Did you choose a goo role?"

Did you gain any insight of the four people who answered your questions?

I'm loving the not-quite-an-OMGUS-FoS, though.



4mask

I need to clear myself now?  Also this is a terrible plan.  Who's to say that whomever is king mafia will deliberately choose not to kill tonight?  Or gets roleblocked?  Or I get roleblocked/redirected/etc.?

Not to mention that you could lie about losing your role D2 and/or you have some ability that makes ‼fun‼ for those who target you.
We all need to clear ourselves. It's the game. And yeah there's a lot of things that could snag this. But I'm offering you a way to move forward. Assuming you don't target OSG for no reason, there's only a 1/5 chance you'll hit the scum. 4/5 chance you'll hit town. I'm saying, target me, steal my role. It'll be worth your trouble if you're town. You'd know if I tricked you into targeting me for !FUN! because you'd have my role! And if scum wastes a turn not killing or redirecting/blocking you... that's great! It's a win/win. If you don't steal my role, I'm not going to say "you must be scum", so mafia disrupting you would be pointless.
And what if the mafia don't kill?  Yeah, they didn't kill that night, but if they have an active role they can use it (thus also gaining some honesty points if/when it's role claim time) and there's more often than not at least one town killing role to do their dirty work for them.  On top of that, if your role is in any way useful why would you want to lose it to someone you don't know the alignment of?

My two cents?  You're trying to bait targeting so you can pull some nifty trick.  I just have to figure out motive, and a good long look at the role list may prove enlightening.  I'll be back later.

There are hundreds of roles in that list, what makes you think you can even narrow it down? This assuming you're even correct with your current analysis on NQT... perhaps you just want to look like you're doing something.

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Mafia / Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 6)
« on: February 26, 2016, 02:50:58 pm »
hector13:
It probably wouldn't.

Multitude of questions:

Should a particular answer to any question change my play, though? (beyond "okay, this answer makes me think they're [alignment] so I'll [action based on that assumption]")

Why do you think that because OSG chose this particular role, that he's that particular alignment?

Assume you are correct in your that OSG targeted you for the reasons you stated. Why do you think he targeted you as opposed to one of the other "strong" players like 4mask or NQT?

I like your claim. How do you think it will affect the other players?

If it wouldn't change your play, then why ask the question?

It would force him into a position of claiming something that others might be able to dispute, at some point.

For example, if someone acts on you and retains their ability, you're not yellow goo. Whether someone wants to risk that or not is another thing entirely.

Why do you think that because OSG chose this particular role, that he's that particular alignment?
2 - Ask me this again after OSG responds.

Acceptable.

3 - I have a better win/loss ratio than either of them1.  Clearly I am the bigger force to be reckoned with.

A win/loss ratio is probably not the best measure of an individual's ability in what is, for the most part, a team game.

I'll wait to see how things turn out between you and OSG before pressing that further.

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Mafia / Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 5)
« on: February 26, 2016, 01:01:24 pm »
Shakerag

Well, if your ability was Ice Cream Man, then that was me.  So, scumbag, trying to target the stronger players first to ensure they lose their abilities so as to make your odds of winning better?



hector13: Let's pretend OSG said what his ability was right away.  How would that information change your play?

It probably wouldn't.

Multitude of questions:

Should a particular answer to any question change my play, though? (beyond "okay, this answer makes me think they're [alignment] so I'll [action based on that assumption]")

Why do you think that because OSG chose this particular role, that he's that particular alignment?

Assume you are correct in your that OSG targeted you for the reasons you stated. Why do you think he targeted you as opposed to one of the other "strong" players like 4mask or NQT?

I like your claim. How do you think it will affect the other players?



NQT

Hector, say I'm a cop, would you like it if I inspected you?

I wouldn't be bothered by it. Thoughts regarding cops:

An alignment cop would likely be town in this instance, as the scum know who the town is so wouldn't need to inspect others.

Role cop is a little bit more ambiguous, since scum might want to know which roles the town have to better tailor who they want to try to get out of the game, while town might just be curious what else is in the game for when they get to be KING MAFIA.

NQT: what's with the loaded questions?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:49:30 am »
*Checks something in thread*
*Facepalms*
...so much for that meta-assumption. I missed the mundane because I was looking for the special.

Never mind.

This means you can reveal all, min.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:48:50 am »
y'know the more i think about the parallels there the more it seems right
"I'm not a witch!"
"Well that's just your opinion"

*sigh*

You missed an opportunity to use a Dude quote, man. I am ashamed of you!

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:30:34 am »
I imagine they'll have been sworn to secrecy. I'll give one up eventually, just to see what happens.

Edit: why is everyone so honest, too? Pretty much every roleclaim was honest (or partially honest) and Starver (understandably) didn't claim.

It's all very silly.

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Other Games / Re: Gaming Pet Peeves
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:26:15 am »
Enough with the Star Wars canon talk already :P

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General Discussion / Re: Terrible Jokes
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:23:03 am »
Oh God, imagine skull-fucking a moray eel - those pharyngeal jaws would be nasty...
When of your dong you're divest, and it's left to digest, that's a moray.
Culise confirmed for William McGonagal.
In a field there was a coo.

It must've moved, 'cause it's no' there noo.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 26, 2016, 09:20:56 am »
I was actually voting TBF, 'cause you were. I got the count wrong and confused myself. Evidently it confused you as well :P

Ah well, I'll take the VP.

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General Discussion / Re: Terrible Jokes
« on: February 25, 2016, 11:37:56 pm »
*stares*

Wrong thread, that was funny.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 11:35:53 pm »
A'body wants a piece of hector13, 'cause I'm so hawt. *blows kisses at everyone in a variety of sexy poses*

Sorry Starver :( you lost before you even started!

Also, Moonlit managed to lynch himself. I also didn't really think he was the baddie :o

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Mafia / Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 5)
« on: February 25, 2016, 11:25:38 pm »
Better question: what was your ability?
Even better question: why are you role fishing already?
Roles aren't connected with alignment. He also doesn't have the ability no more. Technically not role fishing if he doesn't actually have it.
And technically I could have chosen to be a nexus just to fuck with you all.  Doesn't mean I did it.
Fair enough.

What do you think my mibbes-aye-mibbes-naw role fishing means then, monsieur?

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Mafia / Re: King of the Mafia 5: Round 1, Day 1. (7/7) (Queue: 5)
« on: February 25, 2016, 11:04:38 pm »
Better question: what was your ability?
Even better question: why are you role fishing already?
Roles aren't connected with alignment. He also doesn't have the ability no more. Technically not role fishing if he doesn't actually have it.

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