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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 07:25:08 pm »
Ninja's stop it.

1. I need TBF to win. TBF explicitly needs the Evil role to win. It was mentioned in your post just before it. 2. a) Yep. Exactly. b) Why? Your main reason for voting me, if I recall, is that I'm not helpful. With my wincon, I'm not the most helpful to town, but then again I am Neutral. You seem like a Town Weakness, as your role with hurt as often as it helps. That's another reason I'm not voting you. c) You are right, of course.

Okay. This is assuming you're being honest...

FoU, what say you? I'd prefer to lynch Starver, particularly given this analysis; you make that difficult.

PPE: There are five people and four role archetypes. Do the maths :P

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 07:18:31 pm »
I don't understand why you're quoting that. See here for details.

Does it tell us anything useful, is my point. What about it is useful?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 07:15:29 pm »
So, you ask. My result on hector13? He requires no one in order to win. That's what I got for a result. It could mean he's a townie with an unchanged win condition, it could also mean he's scum.
This.
This what?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:44:45 pm »
Also, this:

I say we lynch hector13, then shout at TBF a lot if he turns out town.

Would you not be responsible for lynching someone you vote for, then?

Starver, if you have an investigator role, do tell us now, please.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:40:24 pm »
@Hector: There's no way it hit me. It would've shown TBF if it had. That means I think it hit Starver.

Do explain this one.

Also explain why you didn't mention it a bit earlier than 2.5hrs before the day ended :-\

And you do realize you're going against everyone who you think is town? Doesn't mean too much, I mean they could all be wrong.

What do you mean? Everyone I think is town is voting me? If so, it doesn't change my thoughts. I just think they're stupid on top of it :P

I understand where FoU is coming from, though in his position I'd also be considering you as scum.

TBF's reason is quite frankly nonsense, but if he is the neutral role who needs to target the Evil role with a night action, he isn't going to vote to lynch scum during the day, is he?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:30:19 pm »
FoU

So, you ask. My result on hector13? He requires no one in order to win. That's what I got for a result. It could mean he's a townie with an unchanged win condition, it could also mean he's scum.

This is what you said when you announced your result on investigating "me". You said I could be town or I could be scum based on what you got. In what way is that useful?

Put another way, how is it any more useful than a random redirect?

PPE: You say your role provides information. What information did your N0 investigation give us? /genuine question

Assuming everyone is being honest, that means you hit one of TMS, TBF or Starver. Given what they're all saying, who do you think it hit?

I also voted TMS, not TBF. So... The Moonlit Shadow, to avoid confusion for Tomasque.

I've been saying from the frickin' start I think it's Moonlit or Starver. My reasons remain more or less unchanged, beyond second guessing myself about everything (which I'm not going into, because it's all very WIFOM-y)

The only thing that's changed is I'm quite willing to let you die just now, because your role, like mine, is of negligible utility (at least based on your first result) so I don't think we lose that much.

I'd much prefer to lynch one of Moonlit or Starver, but you're not going for it. Oh well.

One thing that occurred to me is the mark might just be an issue for the scum this round. They're marked and have to kill everyone else to avoid it triggering. Speculation, though.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:15:37 pm »
Straw man. I didn't ask that question. I asked you how your role fits into the town. A better way to say it might be "how does your role help the town"?

That's exactly my point, Fallacy. My role fits into town just as well as your's does, yet you see that as reason to lynch me.

PPE: 2hrs 45mins, yet. I think.

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Is there anyone who can destroy roles?

I'd like that. I'd totally like that.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:10:21 pm »
EBWOP

and, for the nth time, FoU dies.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:10:04 pm »
Wait, why do we need a redirector?
Better question: Why would town need a randomizer/redirector? If hector was a town weakness role, perhaps that might make sense, but-
A randomize. Whoever he targets will have all actions targeted on him/her randomized. How does that fit into the town? We already have a claimed protector.

How does this ability fit into the town? The other abilities claimed make sense(protector(protects the Neutral), inspector, ???, 1-shot kill Evil role(owned by Neutral))

With that, it's either Starver or hector13.
Starver's claimed nothing, hector's claimed something that doesn't make sense. Starver hiding his power may make sense for town.

I say we lynch hector13, then shout at TBF a lot if he turns out town.

How does your claim make any more sense than mine, hm? Why do we need an investigator to tell us who someone needs to win? How does that fit into town, as you put it?

PPE: 2 votes each for me and TMS.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 06:00:16 pm »
Unvote

How's about you answer my questions too? TMS

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 05:56:48 pm »
Well what do you think of everyone else?

You say you think FoU is town, yet urge caution with him. That sounds like fence-sitting to me.

Like I keep saying, he's gonna die if we don't do anything. Would you be happy with that?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 05:51:28 pm »
EBWOP: Hector: Remember, I don't care if TBF loses.

Aye, I know.

What are your thought regarding FoU?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 05:48:13 pm »
TRIPLE POST

Right right right.

Never mind, TBF, not engaging in an argument with you since you don't want to lynch scum, so it would detract from actually finding the scum.

So based on that, he's voted for me and TMS, and thinks FoU is an investigator, so he at least seems to agree Starver is scum.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 5
« on: February 25, 2016, 05:44:49 pm »
EBWOP

And again, as things stand, FoU will die. Why do you want to kill 'im so bad?

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