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It's "If you're town, you're going to win anyway, but the protector and the investigator are probably better people to have around."  Assuming neither are lying, that is.

What, the protector who isn't going to protect anyone other than you, the neutral role? Fantastically useful. You're much less useful than I am, since you need to figure out who the scum is without telling the town. Tell us why that's more useful than a town redirector?

This is all getting a bit mad.

Also, hammers don't come into effect 'til D3, seeing as how everybody voted me in Round 1 before I had an opporchancity to defend myself.

... bastards

PPE: Starver has been on late evening/super early morning before. Past performance doesn't guarantee future results, of course, but he might be on.

Might I inquire why, TBF?

Right... I don't see why you won't reveal what your role is, given what has been revealed.

I can redirect anybody targeting a particular player, so I might do that with you if what you reveal is true and/or makes sense. And probably is useful. We also have Moonlit claiming a protect action, though he's unlikely to want to use it on anyone other than TBF.

PPE: people need to refer to me as a redirector, not a randomiser. It's randomly chosen where the action ends up, but I specifically have to choose someone who is acted upon (and I'm not notified of success/failure) rather than "hey you, random target for whatever action you chose to perform, bro"

Anyway, Starver needs a direct claim at this point. I think we're <4 hours away from day end?

I mean, it makes the generic Town 'Scum is eliminated' wincon true.

Not necessarily, brah. Neutral means no affiliations. You're neither for nor against town. Same as you're neither for nor against scum.

What does your ability actually do?

All, I'd rather win than lose, thanks.  If I win, town wins because scum goes poof.  So can we do the plan with a modified step 4 instead where I pyschiatrist the result the next night and then you have a safe lynch because then it's either everyone wins or I can no longer win.

Are you absolutely certain that if you win, the town wins with you?

You know, wouldn't it be absolutely horrible if hector was the scum and he had the randomization power...

So hector: I've got a plan to guard against this possibility. Once the night comes, I'll use random.org to roll a d2. 1, I inspect you, 2, I inspect TheBiggerFish(or Starver if TheBiggerFish is dead). That way, either way town gains some knowledge, and if you're scum, it's less likely that you'll be able to counter my inspection. How's that sound?

It would be since it's not a particularly useful skill for an alignment that needs to kill everyone on the other hand, wouldn't it be absolutely horrible if you were fakeclaiming scum?

As I said, I'll more 'n likely be targeting myself again, unless everyone rails against it. I shall repeat my biggest issue with your ability is if you investigate me, it doesn't really tell us anything, whether the result is the same or different. If TBF is being honest and he requires the Evil role to win, you'd be better investigating him.

We need to lynch someone if we don't want to lose you anyway. Starver is my choice.

Hector: TBF still wants to find scum, though. Just not kill them.

Exactly, why should we stand for that as town?

*picture of yooge asteroid headed for eart*