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Johnson and Sunak apparently had a meeting, though in private, so let’s speculate wildly!

I don’t think Boris really has anything to offer, I think he’s bluffing that he has 100+ MPs supporting him in order to gain some sort of concession from Rishi by offering to stand aside. Allegedly the party membership (the people who would vote in a contest if there were more than one contender) favour Boris - WHY!? - so he’s wheeling and dealing to become part of the government or something.

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My sig is just the funniest thing on the forum.

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The Beeb have a page dedicated to MOs that have either publicly declared support for someone or has told them in the record who they support, and Sunak did indeed have 117 the last I looked at it (Boris had 54!)

Let’s see… here. Looks like Boris lost one and Sunak is way ahead.

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It happens even in newer threads for me. The search function is useful in games of mafia, unless it goes beyond one page of results because it doesn’t show more than that.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2022, 11:16:56 am »
Where are you being:

Treated like a right-winger?

Forced to defend positions you don’t believe in?

I also noticed you missed my previous questions. If I’m being abusive I’d like to know how so I don’t, and why does my political bias, background, and nationality matter for discourse?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2022, 10:29:25 am »
I see no reason to be abused in the name of dialog.
It might help to understand your bias, political background, and nationality, so I know how much explanation that I need to do before I can actually engage in a dialog.

Where are you being abused, and why do any of those things matter?

Also I had forgotten about what the Republicans did after Walker. I was furious but impressed by how brazen they were in thinking everybody was so stupid to believe they’d been planning to do it for years, even though Walker had been in power for 10 years and they did it in the period between Walker leaving and Evers starting.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2022, 02:06:41 am »
You Don’t Know nuffin’.

Mostly regarding my desire to actually pick the brain of a conservative that isn’t Bumber, or whoever I mean, ‘cause I might learn but nah let’s just continue posting songs we like.

Edit: just remembered what the first line of the song is, that is absolutely not what I’m saying, I just like the song.

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No it’s UK land people just aren’t allowed in there without permission. The protesters weren’t protesting in the grounds, they were protesting outside, on British soil and were assaulted by a group that allegedly included the consul-general, the top guy there.

But sure, if he was Chinese and it was Chinese soil it would make absolute sense for Britain to not give a shit about them pulling him from Britain into China and kicking the shit out of him in front of the police.

Really?

I did mention that I was unable to access the article...

We’re having the same conversation across threads brah. This isn’t a NYT exclusive.

Regardless, you displayed ignorance on the situation re: the legal status of the land, and implied that it was okay the guy got assaulted because you thought he was Chinese protesting China on Chinese soil rather than asking what the details were or looking for a different, readable source.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2022, 01:36:19 am »
Quite so, brevity is the soul of wit, thus:

If you wish for a dialogue, quit moving the goalposts.

If you wish for clarification or citation, ask for it.

Quite frankly I don’t really understand why you post if you don’t want to engage.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2022, 01:10:07 am »
They weren’t fighting authoritarianism, they were wasting time and money doing something they had the power to stop pretty much immediately by voting on it.

Or, to put it in your terms, fighting a pandemic is good, except when Democrats do it by following the advice given by healthcare experts the world over.

I can pretty much assure you that neither political party is as organized as you apparently think they are...

Deep breath....

So, the Governor and their party members do no always agree, regardless of Party Affiliation.

When anyone fails to link articles, it denies others the ability to review the claims. This erodes confidence in the claims.

When anyone talks "generally", they're generally wrong. There tend to be more exceptions than rules. I'm also mostly against generalizations because they allow a small number of people to avoid mostly avoid blame, and a large number of people to receive undue blame.

I don’t think I mentioned anything about parties being organised? I’m not sure what you mean. The Republicans in this instance were organised enough to realise that having the judiciary rule on throwing out a mask mandate would be less harmful to them than if things got worse afterward had they been the ones to vote in it in the legislature.

You are connected to the internet presumably? Possibly search “Wisconsin Republicans lawsuit mask mandate” and maybe even 2020 to narrow it down because I’m reasonably sure they did it more than once, and you could probably figure it out from there if you had more than a passing interest. It’s not like I said the Republicans somewhere did a really bad thing in response to a really good thing at some indeterminate time.

This is also not what you said in response to my lack of supporting articles, instead making a snarky comment about authoritarianism, which made no sense, but I’m not sure how someone overstepping their authority, particularly in response to a crisis, is authoritarian, especiallly when I mentioned the existence of at least two mechanisms to prevent that overstepping, one of which was used.

I also made reference to a very specific choice made by a very specific group about a very specific event at an admittedly not very specific time because it was almost 2.5 years ago, so I have no idea why you bring up generalisations, particularly in light of your recent post re:voting out incumbents.

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No it’s UK land people just aren’t allowed in there without permission. The protesters weren’t protesting in the grounds, they were protesting outside, on British soil and were assaulted by a group that allegedly included the consul-general, the top guy there.

But sure, if he was Chinese and it was Chinese soil it would make absolute sense for Britain to not give a shit about them pulling him from Britain into China and kicking the shit out of him in front of the police.

Really?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 21, 2022, 11:43:51 pm »
They weren’t fighting authoritarianism, they were wasting time and money doing something they had the power to stop pretty much immediately by voting on it.

Or, to put it in your terms, fighting a pandemic is good, except when Democrats do it by following the advice given by healthcare experts the world over.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 21, 2022, 08:49:48 pm »
Yep.

In Wisconsin they objected to how the Democratic governor was dealing with the pandemic when it became a big deal in 2020, particularly over mask mandates and how the state health secretary (or whatever it was called) extended the first one since they claimed they didn’t have the power to do that so took them to court… rather than organize a vote in the Republican-controlled state senate to vote it down.

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Christ the prose of the new(ish?) political editor for the BBC is god-awful, I hate it.

It makes me long for the days of Brian Taylor, former Scotland political editor, who could be writing about the most boring topic imaginable but he would bring it to life with his writing. Ah well.

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Just write the end of stories starting in media res.

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