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You’ve claimed your wincon is to be befriended by someone. Do you want to stick by that?

PPE: looks like a yes.

So… I’d rather not eliminate someone before all the players have had a chance to post.

I’m… for some reason I’m willing to give Tric the benefit of the doubt here? That he would make a mistake like this, I mean. This may be due in part to his claimed magnet though. He could be eliminated during the night, meaning we don’t waste a lynch on him, and town are guaranteed to not be killed N1.

Quote from: FallacyofUrist on September 05, 2022, 12:13:03 pm

Because role flips are the single greatest information source we have, closely followed by player behavior in thread.

Well, all right. My flip will be completely fake. That is to say, completely random.

Quote from: ToonyMan on September 05, 2022, 12:30:15 pm

I don't know, I think Knightwing and Hector are town here.

So far, I agree. This encourages me that ToonyMan may also be town.

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I don't think I believe TricMagic here, but I can't articulate why exactly. I believe he probably INSPECTS as a third party, though.

It’s this kind of thing that makes Max hard to read for me. They know Tric puts a lot of stock in their role, to the point of that sometimes overriding their alignment (webadict’s game in which Tric was town and had their role modified by collecting hats, in which collecting these hats was all Tric was interested in) so I don’t know how they think Tric’s claim is so unbelievable.

*gets distracted by having things to do*

Jiminy Christmas Tric. It’s awfully convenient you claim to be a magnet after someone claims a random recruit for town.

Euch. If anything I suppose it makes you more suspicious if you’re still alive on D2. Probably. *sigh*

Quote from: hector13 on September 05, 2022, 12:29:27 pm

@NJW we’re in a weird setup with only 8 players, an announcement at the start of the game that there was at least one scum (the implication being “not necessarily more than one scum”) then a claimed recruitable third party that seems to stay in the game even after they achieve their wincon of being recruited, plus someone claiming a random recruit for town, with another implication that scum might also have a recruit ability, random or otherwise.

Am I just supposed to ignore the first significant piece of information in the game? :p it’s also RVS and close to day start, we have plenty of time to examine that and hopefully clear up before the end of the day, and FoU can confirm my experience with early TP claims that” they can benefit town” was not good.

You're not. Nonetheless, that was the way you responded to it.

Also, as a pedant I'd say the first bit of significant information signifies the end of RVS.

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If Tric's to be believed about the third party thing, then yeah, 2 mafia + 3p could drop to lylo on a single miselim, or even end the game if the third party can reasonably side with the mafia, so that might be odd. I'd speculate that there may be Mafia + Mally, possibly with a third party.

Wanna hear my waaacky theory about who they'd be?

Spoiler: conspiracy theorising (click to show/hide)

Quote from: hector13 on September 05, 2022, 10:22:33 am

There are 8 players in the game which makes having the tradish two scum and a third party of any stripe a bit of a stretch here.

Quote from: hector13 on September 05, 2022, 11:22:18 am

It seems more likely to me that there’s one scum, and Tric is able to be recruited by them, possibly also by town to maybe kinda sorta balance it out?

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I hate third parties, god damn.

Quote from: FallacyofUrist on September 05, 2022, 12:08:26 pm

It has been a while, hector my scum buddy my pal, hasn't it?

Not actually mafia though. I am, stating once and all and for the record, that I am town. If I subsequently claim third party, please execute me. Thank you.

Quote from: hector13 on September 05, 2022, 12:29:27 pm

If we’re vagueclaiming, my ability is of… it’s not very good. I think I’m more support than anything else.

Started thinking about this because Mafiakart racing had a Mally in it. I checked out the game because they were talking about it.

Doesn't add up to much, but hey, following my gut here.

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Ninja: ok Tric has a global attract. I'm going to think about this.

The first significant piece of information was a third-party claim that they could be recruited. What am I supposed to do with that?

This is within the context of a game with fewer than 9 players, which I’m under the impression is the minimum number to make a 2 player scum team “fair”, but more than 7, which I think is the upper limit for a 1 player scum team, though I might be mistaken regarding that.

Further context is the announcement that there was at least 1 scum from the mod, an unusual step. This doesn’t preclude a 2 player team, but it does make it harder for me to believe with Tric’s recruitable third party claim involved, plus Toony’s apparent supporting claim for it.

Like… I get that focusing on third parties doesn’t help find scum, but it’s the first few hours of D1, it was the first significant thing to happen, Tric could be recruited by scum by D2 (this was before the magnet claim) soooo… how would a townie response be different to how I responded to the information and context?

Toony you’re not making my naked paranoia any better with claims like that.

Knightwing, how does it feel to be 1 of the weaker players. Or do you contest this?

And before anyone asks, I'm third party. So I'm going to be a bit disruptive till I win, after which I'll just help out my friend. Please befriend me?

Yes, this is a silly way to win a game of mafia, why do you ask?

Uh huh. What kind of third party are you?

There are 8 players in the game which makes having the tradish two scum and a third party of any stripe a bit of a stretch here.

@NJW I’ve played with everyone here at least once. I think I’m most comfortable reading FoU, though it has been literal years since I played a game with them so maybe that’s wishful thinking, and least comfortable with Max Spin. They just always seem to be pinging my scumdar.

How come you only asked three players questions?

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NQT: Can I spoilspec..? It would make my life so much easier.

More in a bit, I need to wake up. Typical Brit starting the game so early.

Your mum is an ostrich.

I am assuming that it’s related her most recent book, in which an artist is accused of transphobia (among other things) and is murdered after being doxxed by anonymous internet users.

Which is a little on the nose.

EJ has been informed multiple times of the specifics of the Clinton emails, and how it’d imparts to Trump’s current escapades.

He just doesn’t want his guy to be the bad guy, despite the mountains of evidence showing such.