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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 31, 2022, 05:22:14 pm »
Do you favor anuses or ani as the plural of anus?

I like anuses.

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He sold pizza.

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In what way am I arguing in bad faith? Because I refuse to accept your position? I’ve been saying violence will either result in a prolonged civil war in which there are so many competing factions that nothing gets done, or will just result in the autocrat being replaced by the same or worse.

What’s the point in taking action if it will result in either no change or something worse than what you have now? It’s akin to breaking a finger and treating it by cutting off your hand.

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I provided examples of violent protest that have resulted in over a decade of civil war, with factions fighting enemy and friend alike.

At least in a peaceful revolution you have the opportunity to get the police and military on your side. You won’t do that by killing them from day 1. The hardcore fascists now have to fight a skilled and equipped foe that don’t have losses to make up for from a violent revolution.


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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: August 31, 2022, 11:03:43 am »
I was reading a news report on the BBC, and it was apparently the Supreme Court having said something along the lines of the constitution being the only thing that sets out the criteria for president and they wouldn’t support changing it.

Paraphrasing because it was a while ago I read it.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: August 31, 2022, 10:32:58 am »
He can’t be barred from office, at least not the presidency. The only conditions are to be natural born, I think 14 years residency, and be at least 35 or some other arbitrary number. Criminal convictions aren’t disqualifying.

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Prove it.

What do you think a nonviolent rebellion looks like and why would it fail?

See Belarus 2020 as an example of "peaceful rebellion". Crowds were ignored, leaders were imprisoned and tortured. Nothing changed

Please, please model a peaceful rebellion that removes Putin from power. I am REALLY curious

If all we need is one example of something not working then I expect you support Ukraine giving up the fight because they already lost in 2014? ::)

Putin put in a law to stop people protesting the Ukraine war because he doesn’t want people protesting. If he didn’t give a shit about it, and could just send in security forces every time, what was the point of the law? Because violently suppressing protests just encourages more protests, particularly if there are other things bothering people, like the cost of living from all the sanctions on Russia.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: August 31, 2022, 01:41:20 am »
DDG isn’t the best, but at least they aren’t selling everything they know about you or using it to get you to buy shit.

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Prove it.

What do you think a nonviolent rebellion looks like and why would it fail?

Edit: I can only conclude from this you’re not interested in revolution, you’re not interested change, and you’re not interested in making things better. All you want is revenge.

If you embark on the journey to revenge, dig two graves, though in this instance you’d be better just cutting out the middleman: dig one, jump in, and shoot yourself.

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https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2053168016630837

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The central message of this study is clear: though coups against autocrats have sometimes led to democratization, more often they install a new set of autocratic elites and expose citizens to higher levels of repression.

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In what way is endless civil war a success?

Or are we just defining success as murdering the incumbents and their allies, and caring nothing for what happens after?
Look, we have to take the risk, it's better than leaving Putin in power. If only the Russian people realized that.

The only thing that’s going to beat Putin in the violence stakes is something worse than Putin. Don’t wish that on yourself.

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Hey, why these weird Arab examples? Take Russia! Check this out:
Unpopular war. Armed uprising based on grand ideals (and ample Western support, natch). Russians fighting amongst each other. The rebels winning. The rebels proceeding to invade their neighbours within a couple years. The rebels destroying the economy to the point of starvation. The rebels enacting a reign of terror exceeding the previous regime's.
Yes, it's the wonderful Bolshevik revolution. But the Tsar is no more, so it's a success, right? Besides, this time it'll work out better, I'm sure.
Except the revolution had many democratic elements and was hijacked by the Bolshevik faction. I am a Menshevik demsoc larper. So yes I say try again.

Obviously history could never repeat itself :p

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General Discussion / Re: What is consciousness?
« on: August 30, 2022, 10:11:06 pm »
I lose consciousness very briefly every few seconds.

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General Discussion / Re: If Bay 12 Was A Cult
« on: August 30, 2022, 06:54:29 pm »
But I thought pyramids displeased the toad?
Oh, right.  I forgot about that!
I'm actually unclear on which part of The Toad scripture states that pyramids displease The Toad....
It’s lost somewhere on the forum, but there was at least one person who desired to see how great a pyramid could be created, and the Toad discouraged such misguided endeavours.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you mildly upset today thread
« on: August 30, 2022, 05:40:53 pm »
Once is enough, thank you.

Fuck me it would be horrible if we had to do this again.

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You know, now that you mention it, I've never heard of a person who sleeps around yet identifies as aromatic. Those who sleep around always talk about settling down eventually.
Part of me thinks people who are really Like That don't really want to admit they're Like That
I knew a proud Catholic who went to chapel every Sunday who was fucking around every Saturday.

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