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Speaking of politicians lying, Australia had/have an interesting little controversy over the former PM secretly assigning himself not one, not two, but five other ministerial portfolios last year, citing worries over Covid.

Because obviously when you put in safety nets, they need to be secret safety nets oh wait those are spider webs..

Unsurprisingly he’s doubling down on this big time, saying he did nothing wrong and essentially that because nobody else has been PM in a crisis they don’t understand so aren’t allowed an opinion on the matter. I imagine he’s saying that because I don’t think anyone has a positive opinion on him secretly centralizing power.

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Was Night 0 better or worse for the game than traditional RVS?
No: TricMagic

Night 0 turned into RVS night followed by laborious mechanical discussion. Also, note that just cause someone has a godfather role that doesn't always make them mafia in BYOR games. And yeah, I was asking for it, but still.

You did deserve it :p I was townreading you until that self-vote.

Anyhow, yeah, non-lethal N0 only really works when you have detective roles I think. There’s no need for scum to lie about what they did and there’s no risk to them if their alignment can’t be looked at, and as I said before, it just devolved into trying to mechanically solve the game, which I personally find to be boring.

Traditional RVS at least encourages interactions between players, forcing them to take positions and, most goddamn importantly, to use their vote. The game might eventually get to the point that it’s being solved mechanically, but I’m of the firm belief that the day game informs everything, so that will feed into the actions taken at night, and consequently the day game should be the focus for beginner games.

I’d say this was a pretty good introduction to what mafia is like here

Absolutely not. The N0 thing made the entire game a laboriously boring process of analyzing night actions with minimal actual discussion beyond that. I don’t think an actual beginner would have learned much from it.

Why would Ukraine damage an important piece of infrastructure just to spite the Russians, when they can wait 10 minutes for another Russian war crime to be reported?

They might also be wearing a spacesuit which gets perforated every time they get shot, and that’s why you lose 6 seconds of space time every time you get shot.

That was my point, aye.

Russia take the post-truth tack of blaming everyone else, and when they can’t do that, say everyone else does it too.

The game is fine other than the hoods stuck in jail forever if they get arrested. The GOG version includes the no-cd patch that causes that because it’s the only way to get the game to run.