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Quote from: hector13 on July 10, 2022, 06:45:25 pm

Again with the naïveté!

When the police start asking someone to stop filming, that becomes police activity through any sort of handwavey bullshit because it’s a crime to refuse.

“I didn’t have a tape measure on me so I eyeballed it as 8ft so I asked them to stop filming. I may have misjudged in the heat of the moment.”

This absolutely will be abused by the police force to conceal any form of abuse on their part.

This absolutely will be abused by some members of the police force to conceal any form of abuse on their part. How often do you think those specific officers will be able to get away with it?

The officer needs to make a verbal warning about the video being prohibited within 8 feet. Backing up to 12 foot is all the observer needs to do as they continue recording. It is all the observer should do.... They will still get a video as good as Darnella Frazier's.

Whether or not the person videoing moves is irrelevant. The officer can say they moved but were still within 8ft of the action which means they can be arrested, and that means whatever they were recording with is confiscated. It will somehow end up in a million pieces as a consequence, or in some other condition in which the video is irretrievable.

So, to answer your question: much more than they should be able to get away with it. The police are human, but they’re meant to be the best of us and should be held to the highest possible standard. This law is meant to prevent that, because the ones who will abuse it are the ones who don’t/won’t/can’t meet that standard.

You learned how not to do something, you came out the other side golden.

Again with the naïveté!

When the police start asking someone to stop filming, that becomes police activity through any sort of handwavey bullshit because it’s a crime to refuse.

“I didn’t have a tape measure on me so I eyeballed it as 8ft so I asked them to stop filming. I may have misjudged in the heat of the moment.”

This absolutely will be abused by the police force to conceal any form of abuse on their part.

If someone wants to assault a police officer, given the prevalence of firearms, 8ft/15ft/100ft won’t stop them.

No media exceptions there bud. The cops move within 8ft of a journo and ask them to stop filming, refusing is a misdemeanor, and you can have whatever you’re filming with confiscated.

Don’t be so naive.

It is about protecting the police though. Derek Chauvin was videoed by a 17 year old, Chauvin was convicted of the murder and violation of the civil rights of George Floyd. If there was a law like this in Minnesota, that doesn’t happen.

Sustain prescience and shoot the ork.

Arizona hates free speech, at least as it pertains to monitoring the police.

A lot of his wealth is shares in companies. If he sells them, their price goes down, which tanks their - and his - value. He will need to sell a lot of shares to get that $44bn.

He is also vastly over-valuing Twitter shares, so he’s unlikely to ever recoup the wealth he uses, at least in terms of the Twitter stock price.

Presumably anyway.