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Quote from: hector13 on June 02, 2022, 10:43:21 am

Quote from: MaxTheFox on June 02, 2022, 10:16:58 am

Quote from: Frumple on June 02, 2022, 07:24:46 am

Eh, a lot/most mass shootings are fairly small ones -- 4 or 5 folks shot, that sort of thing. Irrational and momentarily emotional is all that takes when you have a gun that can spit out two or three times that number of bullets in the span of a few seconds, any of which can easily kill someone, which is most guns that aren't single shot (and probably some that are).

Reducing access and proliferation is just... literally pretty much the only thing that will help on that front. Those sorts of shootings are caused by availability, just having an extremely deadly weapon sufficiently near someone that's pissed off or otherwise distressed, and stopped when it's no longer there. It's the difference between four dead to gunfire and one or two stabbed but stable in the hospital, basically.

It's also not something that's going to have anything done about stateside anytime soon, unfortunately. Stateside, there's a bunch of people stridently opposed to implementing any and all solutions proposed, and until that changes, welp.

Again, mentally stable people don't snap like that either. Yes I support restricting access to guns for those with e.g anger issues. Are we on the same page here?

This is unlikely, but deadass blanket restricting guns is even less likely. I wouldn't loosen gun laws in Europe even to the extent I want them to go in America. But America is a different social environment from Europe. I like thinking about policies in terms of things that can realistically happen.

You’re very naive about emotions. Everyone in the world is capable of getting angry, and if they get angry enough they can kill someone, or do something that might kill someone.

I know for a fact that the vast majority of people have enough self-control to not shoot several people, even when extremely angry. Especially a school shooting. If your anger spirals last long enough for you to walk to your school with a loaded gun, that is your mental issue.

Know for a fact, right. Are you going to share your sources on that one? Utter nonsense.

We weren’t talking about school shootings, we were talking about people snapping. You do not need anger issues to attack someone.

Most people do not have ready access to a gun, so most people aren’t going to respond by shooting someone they get angry with, but angry people do stupid things, even if they only lose control momentarily. That is literally all it takes, and guns make it so much easier to kill in those moments.

Humans are emotional beings. Emotions are inherently irrational. Irrational actions do not make someone inherently broken, regardless how much you’d like to think so.

I went for a physical once, then balked at the cost. wtf is the point in paying for insurance if I also have to pay the doctor? Like, seriously America, you have an example of universal healthcare on your doorstep but your like NO WE CANT HELP THE PLEBS I WONT SUBSIDISE THEIR HEALTHCARE (even though I’m doing that with insurance) ID RATHER LINE THE POCKETS OF AN INSURANCE EXECUTIVE OR DIE OF SCURVY IF I DONT HAVE INSURANCE.

Quote from: Egan_BW on June 01, 2022, 12:34:21 am

And probably not much increase in ability to actually get help, since I don't see how the law can require that the person you speak to actually knows anything or is able to solve the problem.

This.
It had occurred to me that the cheapest option is to turn the Customer Service number into a party line, aka if two or more people call customer service at the same time, the system has them talk to each other instead of an employee.

At which point you’ve violated the law at least two times and get 100k fines :p

I was under the impression it was, you know, any contact, but I guess some people need to be told to be a bit more picky about where they put their dicky.

It’s not as virulent as covid, so it should (should) be fine.

It’s a special military operation so they won’t/can’t do that. They are training conscripts though, so maybe around mid-Summer you’ll get all of them sent over. Or before as part of their training of things continue to go poorly.

Quote from: Jim Groovester on May 29, 2022, 10:07:54 pm

I'll end signups tomorrow to see if somebody wants to take webadict's place.

I can't quite tell if webadict would specifically prefer not to play or is just trying to be nice.
I'll play if he wants to give up the slot, but if he doesn't, that's fine too.

Also, hope things become okay soon, Vector.

Eh… PTW.

I’ll be a replacement also, should it be required.