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War sucks brah. Can’t just roll over and let the other guy win though.

Russia are actually firing on military targets?

I wonder if there was a hospital nearby that they missed accidentally.

Eh, take from frumple, if you've spent over a decade with that sort of thing in the background it stops actually being a thing somewhere along the line. Curiosity only goes so far, family related or not. You eventually internalize they're really not your problem and you genuinely just don't care anymore, heh.

Can be a bit of a relief when you notice it, really.

I can concur, I have not spoken to my dad in over a decade, and I’m cool with both that and not knowing what’s going on with him.

The Russians aren’t going to see that as a declaration of war because if Britain has to get involved, the rest of the EU and the US now have an excuse to take a more active role in defending Ukraine. Russia are having enough problems with Ukraine, never mind the combined technology of the West^tm.

Putin’s an idiot, but not that type of idiot.

Having not read the article, I thought it was just Russian vodka being boycotted, but I only heard that on NPR about one company.

Quote from: hector13 on March 06, 2022, 10:28:40 am

Since then it’s been pretty clear EJ just wants to post their perspective and move on. I’m still interested in that perspective, so I’ll continue responding in the hope I can delve deeper at some point.

Look, a lot of shit is going on.  I can't recall what my perspective was a week ago.  If there was something I posted that interested you, let me know and I'll see what follow up I can do.

I've avoided the AmeriPol thread for several years, for what seems to me to be rather obvious reasons.
It was only because of this War that I've posted in this thread. 
I've posted here because I believe American could have prevented it if the current Government wished to do so.

It is a fact that Putin didn't invade Ukraine during Trump's time in office.  The last invasion of 2014 occurred prior to Trump's time in office.
Apparently, these facts don't fit into the Anti-Trump Pro-Democrats beliefs, so they seem to get ignored/obscured.  Democrats like doing that in my country.

Hell, Biden's victory was more because Trump pissed off the media (and everyone else) than any actual merits of Biden.  The media got so biased leading up to Trump's loss.

While my concerns about this tread being an Echo Chamber are minor, the whole mainstream media in the US has become an Echo Chamber.

Ironically, this thread seems pointless.  Most of you aren't living in the United States, so what is the point?
Maybe I should let you go back to complaining about Stupid Foreigners being Stupid (foreigners being Americans in this context), and I'll stick to the Bad European Jokes thread.

It’s that kind of thing I want to explore! The only times politics comes up in my personal life is usually people railing against one side or the other and expecting me to agree with them, either way.

I have my own set of opinions on things, sure, and I will acknowledge they are different to your own (at least from your assertion that Trump is good and that Democrats are bad, I assume you are a conservative of some description) but that doesn’t mean I’m going to dismiss you out of hand.

Anyway, I suppose I should ask my questions, in the hope that the current dogpile doesn’t scare you off.

What is it about Trump (or the Republicans, perhaps?) that you think kept Putin/Russia from invading Ukraine?

What is it about Biden (or the Democrats in general) that you think encouraged (possibly not the best word but it’ll do) Putin/Russia that now was the right time to invade Ukraine?

PPE: what stuff could the US have done to stop the war? There were threats for sanctions in the lead up, alongside the whole thing with Putin’s demands about Ukraine not joining NATO, but what do you think should have been done that would have prevented this?

Bearing in mind, there are people in the thread who may disagree, and that’s not a knock on you personally, but the arguments you present.

Another question would be why they used a large example of why it should exist on the internet, despite the internet being a collection of private spaces run by private individuals and the government only really gets involved when speech in those spaces involves criminality.

I’m also not taking potshots. That implies I’m insulting you, while the example you used does show a fundamental misunderstanding of the first amendment, which is usually what people mean when they start complaining about their freedom of speech being impinged.

You must now engage in the capitalistic ritual of surreptitiously stealing his toof for money and pretend it was some fantasy being that broke into his room for his body parts.