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By no means do I suggest no effort is made to fix issues, we just have to deal with some people banging their head on the wall complaining their head hurts while other people tell them if they vote for them they’ll stick it to the guys who are making their head hurt, because the other guys are trying to take their headache medicine and give it to other people.

Summat like that anyway.

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SA is complaining that they’re being punished for finding a new variant.

Also, the WHO is urging countries not to rush to travel bans, and instead use a risk-based and scientific approach.

I would personally have thought that not allowing people into your country that have been in an at-risk area would be quite a sensible decision, but then again they also allow their own nationals in even if they’ve been to those places, just quarantine ‘em first.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 26, 2021, 11:35:16 pm »
It would depend if you rub me the right way.

Not that way.

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You could also just accept the inevitable that the human race is too stupid to survive.

I mean, two current existential crises have fairly easy solutions to them: basic hygiene and consideration for your neighbour will likely keep you from getting sick, and not burning the world to the ground will mean we can continue, like, breathing and shit. (well alright over-simplifying climate change but seriously doing something is better than progressively accelerating it.)

Will people do that? Fuck no. Why should they spend a dollar today to avoid spending two tomorrow fixing a now much more significant problem? A stitch in time saves nine, but they could just buy a new dress, too, it’s fine. Doesn’t matter that the new dress is just the shreds of the old one (the metaphor is getting away from me) but by the time it matters they’ll be dead and their kids and grand-kids have to deal with it.

Morganite away, guys.

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I think people wouldn’t accept new covid restrictions because you could quite easily make the argument that the restrictions that were previously put in place didn’t actually work, and now there are vaccines and, like, some people have taken it.

People would also be tremendously upset if Christmas were cancelled again.

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Sadly, no, I'm just a genius.

I’m not expecting my pregnant wife to shovel snow for the next probably 5 months :p
What? Why not? Over here, pregnant women are sent to the wood clog mines. Childbirth needs training in hard labour.
(Plus, tourism income doesn't just spontaneously generate, you know)

Would you say they are the sole of the endeavour?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 26, 2021, 08:08:14 pm »
I might be very disturbed.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 26, 2021, 02:48:40 pm »
My cat was sitting on my wife, decided to come over to me, sneezed on me twice, and then went back to sit on my wife.

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I’m not expecting my pregnant wife to shovel snow for the next probably 5 months :p

I wish I was a genie though (ahaha) as then I’d make snow something nice.

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I’m a shovel slave :’(

The shovel comes in handy for the other stuff, I guess.

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But to get to that point you also have to shovel it and deal with people forgetting how to drive in it at first.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2021, 04:51:26 pm »
The idiocracy of the dumb adult masses is no argument to expand the voter base with even more irresponsible hormone bombs, of whom there is scientific basis to believe their brains are not developed enough yet to be sensible (or even comprehend the extent of what it means to be sensible).

Pregnant and bleeding women are fine though. Irrationality =/= irresponsiblilty.

I was more suggesting that adults being developed idiots means that kids being less-developed idiots isn’t an argument against giving them the vote.

The pregnancy thing was a point against MtF’s suggestion that young folks being biologically clouded due to puberty means they shouldn’t be allowed to vote, as there are plenty of other biological things that also influence judgment, like menstruation and mental illnesses and the things people decide to put in their body, etc.

Just to be clear, I don’t think it should affect whether they get to vote, but then again I suffer from mental health problems and I like my wife.

I don’t get to vote (at least in national elections) as I’m foreign, though, which is a different kettle of fish.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2021, 11:22:05 am »
It would at least open the door to education on political systems and how they work in the leadup to elections, which I don’t ever recall happening when I was at school.
That can be done independently. Most adults can be responsible enough to vote responsibly, with those that aren't being pretty negligible realistically speaking. It's a matter of educating them.

Like in school for example? :p

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Kids can't. Their judgement is biologically clouded. It doesn't matter how well you educate them, most only care how good the politician's Instagram is.

What are your thoughts on pregnant/menstruating people voting?

People going through hormone therapy for whatever reason?

People with mental illnesses?

People suffering effects/withdrawals from prescription meds, or even just hangovers?

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Also your drug argument falls apart because most people aren't constantly high so unless you go to vote while high I don't see how that is relevant.

I was referring more to caffeine and booze. Both influence how you think when using them in the short-term, and both influence sleep, which will also influence how you think.

Also any tolerance inducing thing like nicotine that can affect how you feel if you don’t get it into your system.

As an addendum to the biological clouding stuff above, should we thus also say people who are using anything that clouds thinking to also not be able to vote?

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What's like a first world problem but in the first world? There are bigger issues for you guys than squeakers not being able to vote because muh representation.

I’m just engaging in the topic at hand; I think young people are just like old people.

My answer to the whole teen voter issue is this. Back in high school we had a mock mayoral election, the trump-equivalent won. This is in contrast to the real election where the adults elected someone reasonable. This was before trump was even a thing btw.

My point is that young people are very easily charmed by populism and “quirkinesses”. If you asked a student about their thought process during a student council election, you would know that they shouldn’t touch real elections with a 10-foot pole.

Considering populists are getting voted in almost everywhere- and if America is anything to go by, able to convince people to attempt to violently overthrow a government based on utter nonsense - old folks are not exactly the best at seeing through bullshit either.

There’s a also a significant difference between a mock election with (presumably) zero consequences and a legitimate election that will affect life going forward. As mentioned above, young folks are in prime position to be educated on how their votes can shape the world around them. Teacher in the class with that mock election perhaps should have followed up with something so the students understood that.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2021, 10:31:38 am »
Y’all are talking like people over the age of 16 cannot possibly be complete buffoons.
They can be but it's a lesser proportion. There probably are some mature 12-year-olds (a grand total of three!) too.
There are fewer under-16s than over-16s, so that still amounts to significantly more buffoonish “adults” than childish children :p /pedantry

It would at least open the door to education on political systems and how they work in the leadup to elections, which I don’t ever recall happening when I was at school.

If there is a test, then who sets the questions? Who decides which answers are correct?

I agree that there are many stupid voters. But such test could also be used to remove anyone who disagrees with whoever sets the questions. At which point it only takes one fool who somehow snuck through to cause only fools or cheaters to pass.

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Sure, anyone can be a fool. And preteens can be wise. But since we for some reason consor important stuff from children, children usually do not have enough knowledge to for informed decisions. And teenagers are in puberty, causing them to think less clearly.

Adults have legal access to drugs and chemicals that alter the way they think so they can’t be trusted either!

Puberty can also last into the 20s, plus it can vary when you go through it, so that’s not a great argument against earlier access to voting.

Further, adults often don’t fully inform themselves of the situation or the choices they may have prior to when they vote either, and folks in school will probably be better equipped to actually find and consider information about elections because that’s what they (should!) be doing every day in school.

As an aside, I’m also against what looks like means testing for voting. They did that in the American South to stop black people voting, and given how politics today seems to be polarizing groups moving further and further apart everywhere, it would just be used as a means to disenfranchise the Them to the Us of whomsoever is giving the test.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 25, 2021, 09:47:10 am »
Y’all are talking like people over the age of 16 cannot possibly be complete buffoons.

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