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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you laugh today: 11000 laughs, somehow
« on: April 06, 2021, 07:03:43 am »
Quote from: martinuzz on April 06, 2021, 03:38:13 am
It sounded like a pretty bigoted remark in the trend of 'protect our children from gays', that you sometimes hear in extremist religious circles.

Over here in the Netherlands, the gay parade is a family outing. Can't teach the kids young enough that gay people are just as normal as everyone else.

Quote from: King Zultan on April 06, 2021, 03:29:59 am
Quote from: martinuzz on April 06, 2021, 02:58:37 am
Quote from: hector13 on April 05, 2021, 07:03:41 pm
Quote from: scriver on April 05, 2021, 11:39:45 am
Was she dressed like a witch? In Sweden children go door to door asking for candy dressed as witches on Pink Thursday.

Pink Thursday does not sound child-appropriate.

Why not?
Some people have dirty minds and make dirty things from anything.

It could also be that I play Yakuza a lot and there’s a street called Pink Street where all the sex shops are :p

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General Discussion / Re: [MILK] There were 12 eggs here what did you do with them? (Happy thread?!)
« on: April 05, 2021, 07:44:53 pm »
New Rick and Morty!

In nearly 3 months but new Rick and Morty!

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you laugh today: 11000 laughs, somehow
« on: April 05, 2021, 07:03:41 pm »
Quote from: scriver on April 05, 2021, 11:39:45 am
Was she dressed like a witch? In Sweden children go door to door asking for candy dressed as witches on Pink Thursday.

Pink Thursday does not sound child-appropriate.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you mildly upset today thread
« on: April 05, 2021, 04:36:03 pm »
Quote from: Caz on April 05, 2021, 04:27:48 pm
oh i hate today. snow on the ground, breaking ice, fucking 7pm blizzards, freezing water again. I THOUGHT WE WERE DONE WITH THIS SHIT. IT'S APRIL NOW PLEASE.

You only have to deal with this every few years though! Assuming you still live in the motherland.

I have to deal with it every year! This year was nice in that I only had to deal with it for three months!

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 04, 2021, 10:07:47 am »
Quote from: Bumber on April 04, 2021, 01:22:46 am
Quote from: hector13 on April 03, 2021, 08:41:18 pm
This I would be using as a basis to show that they’re suppressing the vote, if they didn’t just come out and say it themselves.

Kind of odd to claim Trump is outright saying there that he wants to suppress the vote (by opposing the bill,) when everybody knows he'd been consistently shouting that there was going to be fraud in the election. Are you asking me to believe that he's telling his followers that the bill is completely legit, but he opposes it for electoral reasons? Does that sound like a Trump claim to you?

IIRC, Trump brought up potential fraud via ballot harvesting with regards to that bill.

From the article:

Quote from: Trump
“The things they had in there were crazy. They had things, levels of voting that if you’d ever agreed to it, you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again”

Also from Paul Weyrich in the same article, a founding member of the conservative think-tank Berotage Foundation:

Quote
“I don’t want everybody to vote,” Paul Weyrich, an influential conservative activist, said in 1980. “As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.”

I explicitly said the article was linked to show conservatives don’t want to expand the vote, so anything they do that purports to be related to making the election more secure is probably secondary to just making it harder for people to vote.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 08:41:18 pm »
Conservatives aren’t doing that though. If they were making efforts to remove ineligible voters, and only ineligible voters, everything would be hunky dory. I’m cool with that.

They’re making efforts to remove eligible voters from the register as per the Wisconsin nonsense, they are making it more difficult to actually vote, as per the Georgia nonsense, and have actively tried to throw out thousands of votes, as per the battleground state lawsuit nonsense after the election.

This I would be using as a basis to show that they’re suppressing the vote, if they didn’t just come out and say it themselves.

Anything voting related led by a party that has admitted allowing people to vote would be bad for them is by definition not going to be good for voting.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 07:29:56 pm »
Right-wing group in Wisconsin almost purged 17,000 eligible voters from voter roll, as one example.

This was a 7% miss rate of the 232,000 people that were flagged as having done the shocking crime of

*gasp*

moving house.

Bearing in mind those 17k never moved. 152k were removed from the purge list because they registered elsewhere, and 8k were deactivated, whatever that means. 71k remain on the purge list, presumably because they haven’t responded to having a postcard sent to the address they registered at (which does a fat lot of good if you moved house!), which does not mean they are ineligible to vote.

Please explain to me how removing someone from the voter roll because they moved house is an attempt to remove ineligible voters from the register, ‘cause I ain’t seeing it.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 07:03:31 pm »
Can everybody afford a day off work?

Equally so, the voter rolls aren’t just purged of dead and ineligible voters, and it’s the eligible alive voters being purged that get people’s backs up.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 03:13:17 pm »
The wrong people will win the election, obviously. Then that means the people with all the power and money might lose that power and money, or worse, have to share it!

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 01:48:16 pm »
Yer link’s broken, Duna.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 12:49:06 pm »
Voting is a privilege guys, if you can’t get all your ducks in a row to do it, you don’t deserve it.

/s

As an aside, the political environment in the US is such that I found a website that appeared to be endorsing radical voter suppression, but it took me a few pages to realize it was ironic in tone.

Things are going to be horrible if that doesn’t change, and it’s probably not going to change.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 03, 2021, 12:36:21 pm »
Might be fun-jye then, or fun-ji, but it’s not a hard g.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 03, 2021, 12:07:24 pm »
Quote from: TamerVirus on April 03, 2021, 11:59:37 am
Quote from: hector13 on April 03, 2021, 11:34:36 am
Mushrooms are horrible, what is wrong with you people?
You don't sound like a fun guy.
There are a bunch of different mushroom types out there and you hate them all?
All the mushrooms are horrible. I can deal with them when you cut them up real small, but my preference is for their absolute absence.

It’s pronounced fun-jee anyway :p

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: April 03, 2021, 11:34:36 am »
Mushrooms are horrible, what is wrong with you people?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: April 03, 2021, 10:12:59 am »
Quote from: martinuzz on April 03, 2021, 10:07:00 am
Quote from: Rolan7 on April 03, 2021, 09:41:25 am
The only honest motivation for voter ID is voter suppression, the rest is simply lies from people who can't win fair elections.
Bullshite.
I am very much against Ausweisspflicht, but the nescessity to properly identify yourself is crucial to having fair elections, and for protecting your voters against identity fraud and intimidation.
In the UK you give the volunteer your name and address and they check the voter roll they have and very assiduously cross it off with a ruler and a pencil, though it’s been almost a decade since I was in the UK to vote, so mileage may vary now.

That’s all that’s really needed, to be perfectly honest. If an issue comes up with that then sure, an ID would’ve useful to deal with it, but as you mentioned previously, if it’s required it needs to be freely available and easily accessible in order for it to not become a barrier rather than a precaution.

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