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The argument they tender, ignores the devil in the details.

I just bring the devil out for dinner.

(and, just to note-- the majority of the land use involved in US cattle ranching, is the large tracts of prairie grasses used to grass feed. NOT the corn fields in iowa that supply the feedlots.  In terms of total acres used, the overwhelming majority used for cattle production, is in fact the grassy fields.  To satisfy the argument, all that grass would have to be exterminated.  That is beyond absurd and destructive, and the argument is taken from a dangerous position of ignorance. )

Why would all the grass have to be exterminated?

The argument I’ve heard regarding land use for cattle is about the crops grown solely to feed the cattle, rather than repurposing the land the cattle is using.

To address your argument, you’ve shown that a great deal of cattle production doesn’t use those crops in the US, but (without research because I just got up and can’t be bothered anyway :p so I’m assuming the rest) the remainder use land for the cattle and land to grow crops to feed the cattle. You can get rid of those cattle so you can repurpose the arable farmland used to feed them for human feed, or whatever you want to grow.

Another part of your argument I’m not sure about is that vegans argue the land used by cattle should be used to grow other crops. As mentioned a couple of paragraphs above, I think you might be mistaking the argument over cattle land use, but if not, why does the land have to solely be used to grow crops instead of repurposed for something else? You said that the land would get used for other industrial uses, why not an environmental use instead? Recycling centers or something of that ilk.

In other, less hectic news, Wisconsin broke their daily record for positive cases yesterday with something like 750 positives, and then broke it again today with 850.

I am happy that I have a week off, sad that I have another week to work before that...

Was listening to the radio this morning, not really paying attention, but they were chatting about covid with some dude who was testing cases or analyzing data or something. Some dude calls in and is all “the government tyranny making us wear masks need stop! Anyone who gives up even the smallest liberty for security deserves neither!” and then the guest was like “shut up fool, your freedom ends when it infringes on someone else’s, bitch!” but it came out as “well, as an example, if you have a restaurant,  you have the freedom to make some food and leave it sit for a week before serving it to someone, but you’ll get punished for doing it, rightly so, and it should be the same for not taking precautions against transmitting covid.”

Like, is American freedom just a special kind of freedom in which people don’t think you should be able to get punished for being a complete tit, or is this guy special?

Quote from: hector13 on July 09, 2020, 09:34:48 pm

Just the phone.

To be fair I didn’t ask about the pen, but the phone and the pens were in different pockets, so probably fell out at different points.

But who was phone?

This is your Lord and Savior Jesus Christ speaking, how can I help?

I keep forgetting about this, and it looks like some other folk did too.

Sorry dudes, I’m out.

So far as I’m aware, you can’t end a war if a third-party holds a county in a contested title, which is presumably why you couldn’t end your war with the rebels.

Not entirely sure why the Germans didn’t keep Saarbrucken though, assuming it was part of Silesia. A quick look at the CKII wiki seems to suggest Saarbrucken doesn’t exist isn’t part of Silesia, so that may be why.

Myopic little mole.

Mid-Life Moan.