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I’d like a vote count too.

PPE: jesus wept

Quote from: hector13 on December 29, 2023, 10:58:31 pm

PPE2: Esteemed Imp, just wipe Esteemed Secretdorf’s role in the night. To be perfectly honest I think the worst he’ll be is a third party that exits the game at a particular number of votes, because otherwise it’s game over when he has a plurality as scum, which would be fucked up.

Esteemed hector13
I asked and was told that this may not remove the votes.

So we may have to do this the hard way, and not just leave it in my 'I really asked for something very different' hands.

Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist is hardly going to tell you how Esteemed Secretdorf’s ability works, is he? It’s not a yes, but it’s also not a no.

We know Esteemed Secretdorf is stealing votes, therefore Esteemed Secretdorf - assuming no shenanigans - is not bussing, or merging, or killing, or banishing, or redirecting, which are all the night actions we have issue with.

In much the same way Esteemed Lenglon’s case against Esteemed The Canadian kitten was bullshit on D1 because it was coloured by concerns over post count, your case against Esteemed Secretdorf is bullshit because all you are worried about is their votes, and that colours everything you see about them.

Quite frankly, I don’t believe that Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist is going to completely fuck up the balance of the game by removing town’s only way of getting scum out of the game by giving scum an ability that allows a single scum player to be able to hammer on their own with double figures of players still in the game. That would be fuckin’ bananas.

It would not surprise me one jot that he’s third party and will achieve his wincon when he gets either a certain number of votes or a majority of votes, because anything else which isn’t him being town would be ridiculous.

What does surprise me is my apparent nonchalance in the face of a third-party having so much influence, evidently I have grown a touch.

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The only other claims I have concerns about are Esteemed Jim Groovester’s, Esteemed Knightwing64’s, and Esteemed Crystalizedmire’s.

Probably also Esteemed BlackHeartKabal, but that’s just because I don’t understand why they can mark without other action, unless they have been a double actor this entire time and have been marking and blocking the same person until now.

Another concern is their flavour as a ghost race at driver, and the potential for dead players still acting. Maybe that’s his fault?

I'm not caught up with the thread, but the reason I don't think I was merged with the esteemed Jim last night is because the esteemed hector13 should know that: His action on me told him information in return, and if he only got one result, there could only have been one person hit.

I strongly suspect, based on my own night results, that TEJG was fused with somebody while incidentally bussed with me, and the esteemed Lenglon's inspect hit two players, namely, TEJG and TEBHK.

I put a bit too much stock in the information I thought I’d receive; Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist has since corrected that. I am… not confident… satisfied I guess, that I only hit you in the night.

You appear to be suggesting there was a bus and merge though - you and Esteemed Jim Groovester were targeted, causing Esteemed Lenglon and I to target the other with our actions.

The only bus we’re currently aware of is from Esteemed ToonyMan. This would also imply you were a target for a merging, presumably with Esteemed BlackHeartKabal.

Esteemed ToonyMan, did you bus Esteemed Jim Groovester and Esteemed Maximum Spin?

Eurgh this restriction makes musing over claims very challenging.


I guess that leaves six claims currently to be made, unless I missed things?

How exactly does your omniscient action shite work Esteemed Maximum Spin?

Actually seeing as he did make that point about group chats, maybe Esteemed Jim Groovester would like to clarify if he is in one or not, and who he’s in one with.

Esteemed Jim Groovester would’ve thrown his scum buddy under the bus on D2 though by suggesting Esteemed sofanthiel wasn’t a good choice for the NK.

I don’t currently have an argument that it could be Esteemed BlackHeartKabal from the mechanics of it, but I’m struggling to accept he just marked Esteemed Lenglon when the only other methods so far been via blocking and being acted on. That doesn’t make sense.

Now, I targeted Esteemed Jim Groovester last night, and evidently hit Esteemed Maximum Spin. Do we assume this is an unclaimed bus/merge thing, or just an unclaimed redirect?

What makes you think you didn’t hit Esteemed Maximum Spin?