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Sounds like you need a plan, man. If there’s something you have wanted to do or learn, now is perhaps a good time to look into it and see if you can do that over the Summer.

Content yourself with the fact that every moment you live you become closer to your inevitable end.

Quote from: hector13 on May 17, 2020, 09:19:24 pm

Precisely, religion is important to the time the game is set in, and allowing the players the choice to work within an existing framework or create their own is going to make the game more accessible and/or interesting

That's what I said. Making existing religions wrong doesn't have anything to do with that.

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I also don’t rightly understand why you’re so offended about religions being “misrepresented” in a game which has its endpoint almost 570 years in the past. I don’t think any of the religions present in the game are anything close to how they’re practiced now.

And what? Whether the practice is changed, it's still people's history. Messalians may be extinct but there's still Zoroastrians in India. And whether the people are dead or not, doesn't make slandering them fine. Again, goofy fake things aren't suitable for the base game. Ahistorical is one thing, but they're doing no magic/supernatural in the base game so other categories of pure fiction without historical credibility should be treated the same way even if they weren't offensive.

In what capacity am I being rude? Because I disagree with you?

Incest has been a thing for centuries, man. Charles II of Spain is the go to example. You can marry within your family with Christian religions in the game too, and it’s not as if the game demands you marry a closer relative as a Zoroastrian or your empire falls to pieces. It gives you a small opinion bonus among Zoroastrians, like allowing the Pope to appoint your bishops does.

Precisely, religion is important to the time the game is set in, and allowing the players the choice to work within an existing framework or create their own is going to make the game more accessible and/or interesting

I also don’t rightly understand why you’re so offended about religions being “misrepresented” in a game which has its endpoint almost 570 years in the past. I don’t think any of the religions present in the game are anything close to how they’re practiced now.

Quote from: Mephansteras on May 17, 2020, 03:54:44 pm

Always a risk with historical games, especially ones that are highly education in some ways. It's impossible without additional research to know what stuff the game is teaching you right and what it's got wrong.

Yeah, but at least the devs should be able to recognize that it the article on Wikipedia sucks (as most about religion do) then that shouldn't be their first and only source.

Mm, yeah. Their first goal should always be historical accuracy, and not attempting to make a fun game.

I may have to read through that again.

Again.

A dwarf fortress book:

"Mating: Principles and Practice."

"Written on the item is a manual entitled Mating: Principles and Practice, authored by Fewetha Skinwinds. It concerns the reproductive behaviour of creatures. The writing has rare but particularly exquisite turns of phrase and it contains some asides related to the author's preferences. Overall, the prose is masterful.”

Whwt kind of research did Fewetha put in to discerning their preferences in the principles and practice of the reproductive behaviors of creatures?