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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:59:41 pm »
Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist did say it isn’t super strict, but I did get the impression not to take the piss about it.

You’d probably be best speaking to him about it.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:46:16 pm »
The only issue I have is how that interacts with roles like Millers and Godfathers.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:45:37 pm »
so we can say Esteemed Secretdorf is town and work from there.

Can you help me understand why you are so interested in us saying the Esteemed Secretdorf is town?

Esteemed The Canadian kitten said as much, and didn’t die and revive in the night as they did when they inspected Esteemed sofanthiel.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:43:41 pm »
Yeah. Step one is the thing you’re worried about. You have enough information to figure out step two, to be perfectly honest.
To be perfectly honest, 1) yes I got the thing, 2) no I don't want it, 3) get it off me get it off me get it off me, 4) you can't even do that because I can't be targeted normally, 5) this sucks ( and 6) you probably can't even upgrade it to unkillability because I can't be targeted normally, right? If I do have enough information, I'm much too annoyed about this to figure out how it works)

I got redirected, presumably. My question was answered, it would say I targeted Esteemed Jim Groovester if I got redirected.

Step 2 isn’t that important in the grand scheme of things. There’s no penalty beyond what it says to not sticking to the restriction, which may be a problem for you, sorry.

I suppose the question can be asked why I was redirected to you with what I said was a kill immunity, but maybe the scum were more interested in the randomised target part given how much trouble you appear to be causing them.

PPE: so we know Esteemed notquitethere is town, hopefully we can determine Esteemed The Canadian kitten’s limitations so we can say Esteemed Secretdorf is town and work from there.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:30:14 pm »
Yeah. Step one is the thing you’re worried about. You have enough information to figure out step two, to be perfectly honest.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:26:08 pm »
We’re forgetting the two-step process I mentioned. I was prevented from acting on Esteemed Imp because Esteemed ToonyMan is a dick decided to bus Esteemed Imp and Esteemed webadict.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:23:03 pm »
Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, please would you explain how you would handle a redirect, including provide an example?  Perhaps if Player1 targeted Player2 for an inspect, and was successfully redirected to Player3, what would you inform Player1 of?
In such a case, I would inform Player 1 that Player 2 inspected as whatever Player 3's result was.

So if Mephansteras targeted Shakerag, but was redirected to TolyK, and Shakerag was Town, but TolyK was Mafia, then Mephansteras would learn 'Shakerag is Mafia'.

I used to inform players when they were redirected, but after feedback, I stopped doing that because it made it too easy to figure out setups.

Alright cool the maybe it does apply to me. I was told I targeted Esteemed Jim Groovester.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:17:35 pm »
Hmm. I know for suresies I acted on you, though I haven’t actually asked how my abilities interact with redirects or things of that ilk.

I've already asked about this privately, but let's confirm we all can understand from the source:

Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist, please would you explain how you would handle a redirect, including provide an example?  Perhaps if Player1 targeted Player2 for an inspect, and was successfully redirected to Player3, what would you inform Player1 of?

This doesn’t apply to my ability, but whatever.

Esteemed Imp, can you ask Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist if your post restriction thing activated?

Esteemed hector13, which post restriction?  And what kind of activated?

Being calm and kind, which makes you an unstoppable force in relation to your target or whatever since I can’t be bothered checking Esteemed webadict’s flip.

It's pretty clear who the "merger" targeted on N2, it would have been Knightwing and Crystal because both got banished when Sofantheil's ability can only target one player normally.

This doesn’t explain Esteemed Crystalizedmire being banished again.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:09:39 pm »
Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

I can't confirm anything about webs nor wanting to call everyone Esteemed Hams.

Hmm. I know for suresies I acted on you, though I haven’t actually asked how my abilities interact with redirects or things of that ilk.

If it's something I would notice. e.g. a status, then that didn't happen to me.

This is going to make my question to Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist a bit redundant then, but I’ll ask it anyway…

Also, having just re-read my PM, the flavour does involve a web of words, so my assumption is I was redirected to Esteemed Maximum Spin.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 08:03:32 pm »
Esteemed Imp, can you ask Most Esteemed FallacyofUrist if your post restriction thing activated?

PPE:
Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.
Well, that's the concerning thing. The webs and the esteem are directly related. It gives the impression that you two are on the same team.

Your scumreading me because of flavour? Eurgh.

Look I’m trying to be cryptic here but we’re at something of an impasse. I need information from you which will likely make my claims about this to be moot.

One assumes you acted on me N3?

Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

I can't confirm anything about webs nor wanting to call everyone Esteemed Hams.

Hmm. I know for suresies I acted on you, though I haven’t actually asked how my abilities interact with redirects or things of that ilk.

PPE:
Max, are you saying Hector received flavor about being caught in a web yesterday? He explicitly denied receiving that. If this is the case, I agree, he's scum. Or is it something else?
No, it's something else. I know of an action with flavor about being caught in a web, that also interacts with what appears to be the steamy post restriction - inflicting it or removing it as well as letting the player know if it was there to begin with.

Since I'm taking this to be true:
I only do the post restriction.
Then I am assuming that must be the action that esteemed worthy must have taken last night. But since it's web-related, maybe it was you instead?

I will also note that following said post restriction appears to control the ability to use kill actions, which is why it's awfully concerning that I already know a player is following it.

Oh you’re worried about it like that? I get the suspicion now.

That’s not how my restriction works, it’s what I give to other people to make them kill immune. It’s a two-step process, they need the auto before I can change it to be immune to those actions.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 07:48:41 pm »
Oh the webs aren’t me. I only do the post restriction. Both Esteemed Imp and Esteemed Jim Groovester would be able to confirm that webs aren’t involved, unless you consider excessive etiquette to be a web.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 07:44:39 pm »
Huh, still alive.

Pfp
I investigated Secretdorf, my result shows them as town
Esteemed Imp, the above is important. Please stop the rampant paranoia, unless you can convince me Esteemed The Canadian kitten and Esteemed Secretdorf are working together, in addition to Esteemed Maximum Spin’s current claims.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 07:38:02 pm »
I’m also sad I may have to reveal my secret weapon :'(

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 07:37:29 pm »
I believe that the Esteemed hector13 is, regrettably, evil.

This is more interesting to discuss than Esteemed Secretdorf.

I suspect I know why you chat like this, but if this is some sort of gambit you’ve outed yourself and Esteemed Jim Groovester as being in cahoots.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 (12 / 18) - Day 4 - The Same Situation But Worse
« on: December 28, 2023, 07:34:12 pm »
Welp, I’m inclined not to vote for Esteemed Secretdorf this day.

PPE: maybe, anyway. Esteemed The Canadian kitten, does your abilities say anything about how they interact with Millers/Godfathers/anything that may change inspection results?

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