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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: January 21, 2020, 10:23:14 pm »
I thought you meant Granny Jojo from Gumball.
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General Discussion / Re: Terrible Jokes
« on: January 21, 2020, 08:29:53 pm »
I listen to a podcast so which has some terrible jokes.
Here is a selection.
I went to the doctor with a lettuce up my arse.
Why do you never see elephants hiding up trees?
I’ve heard crocodiles can grow up to fifteen feet.
My friend goes to school with two bags.
I went to the video shop and asked if I could borrow Batman forever.
I went to the shop and asked if I could buy a kettle.
Kenwood, they said.
Here is a selection.
I went to the doctor with a lettuce up my arse.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
Why do you never see elephants hiding up trees?
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I’ve heard crocodiles can grow up to fifteen feet.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
My friend goes to school with two bags.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I went to the video shop and asked if I could borrow Batman forever.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
I went to the shop and asked if I could buy a kettle.
Kenwood, they said.
Spoiler (click to show/hide)
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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 21, 2020, 08:13:29 am »I'd say it has more to do with immersion. If you identify with your player character, then you make choices as though you were them. For an empathetic soul, this then extends to the virtual parties within the game. So you wouldn't want to do anything unjust or cruel to those virtual people. I'm reminded of my playthrough of Disco Elysium, where I really wanted to make choices as though it were me.
Then when you finish the game, or just for the lulz, you act like a complete dick to everyone the next time?
Your mindgames ain’t gonna work, synthIt is very possible for humans to have this question. The question of humans automatically assuming sapience and thus not designing tests to prove it. Thus humans won’t be able to test whether no human entities are sapient, because we don’t make tests to test it, assuming all humans are sapient by default. We already had a discussion about how humans cannot prove they are humans unless they are physically there. It is possible for humans such as myself to ask such questions. We need to design a test for sapience so we can test whether non human entities are sapient too. Without this, we cannot know whether we are sapient, because we don’t test it.
I think a non-human with sufficient sapience would deliberately fail the sapience test, so it wouldn’t really matter anyway.
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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 21, 2020, 07:49:06 am »I will rethink my stance on the subject if (when?) video game AI advances to the point where they can be considered people (but only for those games with said sapient AI). I would probably have a breakdown if I accidentally killed one...How do we test sapience? We tend not to test whether other humans have sapience
Until then, I will probably keep going on rampages without remorse if I feel like it.
'Member this?
Holy crap. For some reason in my mind it barely registered as an illegal thing. But yeah now that I think about it that's absolutely violent crime.
I wonder which of the housemates ended up reporting it? I somehow doubt it was the drug dealer.
Good to know you're being given offers of counselling three years from then.I mean if we want to talk moral philosophy, then killing/torturing video game characters is immoral, if only because it's a reflection of the player. If we go highest possible level, say you went to West World and killed and raped a bundle of robots- would it be immoral if they're just a bundle of data?Why do certain people believe that killing video game NPCs, like DF dwarves or even enemies in FPSs is immoral? It makes no sense, they're just some data inside RAM.We had a thread about this a while back in the Dwarf Mode subforum. The OP was asking if playing DF was therefore immoral. The thread crashed and burned, and I think the Toad shut it down.
Hurting one, from the game's POV, is (usually) like substracting a number from another number. But only an idiot would think that using a calculator is immoral.
Take it a step down, and they're perfect machines and they have no feelings of fear or anger or lust, just the knowledge of the programs needed in order to portray these. Immorality comes from a person inuring themselves to those emotions by practicing on machines.
When you get all the way down to ASCII games, it's just an exceptionally washed-out version of the highest level thing. Strategy games foster a certain... "dismissiveness" which is an immoral trait, if not exactly an immoral act.
How is it immoral? They aren’t real. They may be designed to act as simulations of humans, but that doesn’t mean they are humans.
There is a vast chasm of difference between going on a murder spree in GTA and going on a murder spree in real life.
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General Discussion / Re: [Burg] 12 burgs a day recommended daily intake (Happy thread)
« on: January 20, 2020, 11:08:23 pm »
I looked up images for “happy birthday you fucking cunt” and I’m now very happy.
Not that I think you are, mind, I just call people I like the most awful things.
“Llamas doing weird shit” gives nothing, so you will have to take my word for it that I looked for something funny.
Happy birthday anyway.
Not that I think you are, mind, I just call people I like the most awful things.
“Llamas doing weird shit” gives nothing, so you will have to take my word for it that I looked for something funny.
Happy birthday anyway.
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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 20, 2020, 10:14:42 pm »
I do believe that is what this picture is for.
Also, holy shit that it takes upwards of 3 years to prosecute this nonsense.
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Also, holy shit that it takes upwards of 3 years to prosecute this nonsense.
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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Mystville (Experimental RPG) [Registration]
« on: January 19, 2020, 08:42:03 pm »
Glass totally stole my idea.
Pfft.
Name: Doctor Doak
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Bio: A time-traveling scientist, accidentally arrives in the area after a very successful experiment.
Intelligence: 10
Abilities:
“I deduce...”: notices details others (everyone else) might miss.
“Hey cool!”: Learns things quickly.
Jury-rigged: Given enough time and resources, could probably build something to do what needs to be done.
Absent-Minded: sometimes forgets the minutiae.
Inventory:
Lab coat full of pens
Pfft.
Name: Doctor Doak
Gender: Male
Age: 45
Bio: A time-traveling scientist, accidentally arrives in the area after a very successful experiment.
Intelligence: 10
Abilities:
“I deduce...”: notices details others (everyone else) might miss.
“Hey cool!”: Learns things quickly.
Jury-rigged: Given enough time and resources, could probably build something to do what needs to be done.
Absent-Minded: sometimes forgets the minutiae.
Inventory:
Lab coat full of pens
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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: January 19, 2020, 04:52:02 pm »
Quite a change in industry there, Poo.
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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: The Republic - Rule a space nation! (8/?) - TURN 1
« on: January 19, 2020, 01:38:17 pm »
Arthur addressee Zhuo.
“I would like you to go into further detail regarding your plans for this trillion you have earmarked for colonization efforts. As far as I’m aware, it costs 20B Marks for an entire military fleet, you know, weapons in ships, a fully trained staff to man it, supplies to keep them alive and all that. You want to set aside five times per year for civilians to, essentially, gallavant through the universe looking for a new home.
I don’t understand the discrepancy. Would it not be better to leave the explorations to the military, as they have the equipment to look after themselves should they run into issues out there?”
“I would like you to go into further detail regarding your plans for this trillion you have earmarked for colonization efforts. As far as I’m aware, it costs 20B Marks for an entire military fleet, you know, weapons in ships, a fully trained staff to man it, supplies to keep them alive and all that. You want to set aside five times per year for civilians to, essentially, gallavant through the universe looking for a new home.
I don’t understand the discrepancy. Would it not be better to leave the explorations to the military, as they have the equipment to look after themselves should they run into issues out there?”
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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 18, 2020, 06:37:50 pm »One might suggest, in the realm of American politics, that is a bad idea.Well. Wand charges would probably be more accurate, but eh.I put on my robe and wizard hat
Unless you’re in the South.
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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: The Republic - Rule a space nation! (7/?) - TURN 1
« on: January 17, 2020, 07:42:44 am »
“Why do we need arbitrary term limits? If the people don’t want someone representing them, they can vote them out.”
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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: The Republic - Rule a space nation! (7/?) - TURN 1
« on: January 17, 2020, 07:32:27 am »
“So we spend all our time trying to get re-elected instead of serving the people? That won’t work.”
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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 16, 2020, 03:04:21 pm »
You’ll be Biden your time then.
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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 15, 2020, 09:40:48 pm »
I carry many d2s in my pockets.
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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 14, 2020, 09:54:49 pm »Sorry hector13 - I was not trying to be pretentious. I get railed on by my wife for sounding condescending all the time too...it's not my intent but my tone is terrible.
My comment about schools was because this is basic philosophy I was taught and I guess I take it for granted that schools still teach this: if you give up responsibility, you also give up freedom. Chalk it up to more systematic decay or conspiracy or whatever why this is not taught any more.
As for "free" - Words matter, especially during periods when the meanings start to shift. So yeah I'm going to encourage not being complacent about it.
No problem. I also apologize for the bluntness of my response, but I’m too tired to mince words, and you picked someone who has been too sensitive about their intelligence for ages. Regardless, you didn’t deserve quite that strong a response.
Anyhow, this may partly be a cultural thing; I’m a British citizen, so “free” healthcare (meaning free at the point of use) has been available for my entire life, paid for via taxes and national insurance contributions, and I’ve grown rather attached to it. While you may have had to wait for it, you would eventually get what you needed/wanted and you didn’t have to worry about how it would impact your finances for the months following diagnosis and treatment.
I live in the US now, and been to the doctor all of one time. Probably won’t go again, but that was partly because of all the goddamn hoops I had to jump through to get seen, and then being charged for it afterward (it was a physical, but I also had a problem that required blood tests that didn’t fall under the “one free yearly physical” thing from my insurance) despite paying $600 a month for coverage, and I honestly have difficulty understanding why people prefer that over what I grew up with.