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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 31, 2019, 05:55:39 pm »
Don’t edit your posts in mafia, Leodanny. Big, big no no.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 31, 2019, 05:09:59 pm »
Yeah Leodanny hasn't been active since before the game started, that's not so good.

Anyway, we're approaching the end of the day, about 10.5 hours from the timestamp of this post, and we don't... have all that much.

Until TricMagic responds about my concerns regarding him seemingly agreeing with the reason heydude is voting for him while simultaneously thinking it's scummy, my vote stays where it is.
Yeah, not good is accurate, and not having much is also accurate seeing how the most active would be you, me, and Icy tea.

What are your reads on these players?

I didn't say I wanted Tric lynched, at least not in the post I voted him. In my view there's a difference between voting someone and wanting them lynched. Back then I was voting him, now I'm okay with him being lynched, at least while I'm confuddled over his reasons for voting heydude. It just looks like a pre-emptive OMGUS to me.
Yes, I know you didn't say it, but you could have wanted to but not stated it until you felt the time was right to make that vote official. I think you get what I'm trying to say.

Not really, since what you said here is pretty much how the vote panned out, and this makes it seem you think that makes me more likely to be scum.

What are your thoughts?

You haven't really tried to get information off me since I voted Tric though. You questioned me about it, made some comments, then I took the lead with the questions.
I actually have been by reading your responses, its not much but its something. Though, since it might get something more substantial in the dying hours of the day, I'll directly ask you some things.

1. Who do you suspect and who do you trust? Can you post a list like Icy Tea did?

I'm not a big fan of D1 reads lists, particularly given the lack of activity we've had.

I suspect Tric the most, because his reason for voting heydude does not make sense, and I'm inclined to think you are more likely scum than town. IcyTea has been forthcoming with his views regarding others, and Pavellius' few responses feel more town-ish than not. heydude put some thought into their response to my question but their question to Leodanny could come across a little bit as scum asking what not to do to avoid their vote. Leodanny hasn't been active enough to get a read either way.

Anyway, I guess I can list it, from scum to town:

TricMagic
piratejoe
heydude
Leodanny
Pavellius
IcyTea

2. What kind of key information do you hope to gain by next morning?

This one smells a lot like rolefishing.

Rolefishing is asking questions that are geared more toward figuring out someone's role (whether they're a doctor, sheriff etc.) as opposed to their alignment. I think our site meta here considers it to be more on the scummy side of things, but it can be useful for certain roles to know which other roles are there, for example a doctor may want to find a cop to protect.

3. What do you worry will happen by next morning?

Also a bit rolefishy, but the worst thing that can happen for town is to have an investigative role killed during the night.

4. If Tric was lynched, and he came out town, how would you feel about that?

Less than thrilled. If scum get an unchalleneged kill off during the night, that might put us in MyLo territory.

MyLo means Mislynch and Lose. Basically it means if the town don't lynch a mafia player, they will lose the game if the mafia team survive the night and kill a town player. One thing to do in this situation is to vote for a No Lynch, meaning the town get an opportunity to flush out scum for another night and day. However, the potential presence of a vigilante makes things a bit more awkward.



Spoiler: hector13 on roles (click to show/hide)

Had to be a bit quick toward the end, things are getting busy for me.



PPE:

Mostly to give others time to read/talk/decide for themselves. heydude just kinda posted for a bit, then went silent. And Leodanny just has a couple of posts right now. Still nothing from them. I stick by my gut feeling on heydude at the moment though.

Your vote still doesn't make sense to me. You seem to agree with what he says, but think that's scummy.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 31, 2019, 03:40:25 pm »
Maybe the Republicans are less bothered about people knowing they like to suppress voters these days.

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Roll To Dodge / Re: Divine Fuckery: Sample Title
« on: January 31, 2019, 03:12:47 pm »
Quote
Name: Hectorclese the Stout
God level: Minor
Power: 7 - probably
Sphere: Victory and Feasting
Description: The Heartiest of Hearty Boys, the pinnacle of what they can be; big and strong, he's always on the lookout for something to eat. He walks among mortals with a dim glow around him, a clear sign of his deification.
Notes: Smarting over the loss of some Hearty Boys in the Food Invasion
100 Food beasts and 50 Hearty Food Boys

"Ah, bugger it."

Create some beasties for my FoodBoys to fight. Proper feasting cannot be done without proper victory.

Maintain small efforts to get the Chaotic Food Realm back toward Akahet.

Also give Borkle 1 power to solve the problem with entropy.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 31, 2019, 02:32:24 pm »
Yeah Leodanny hasn't been active since before the game started, that's not so good.

Anyway, we're approaching the end of the day, about 10.5 hours from the timestamp of this post, and we don't... have all that much.

Until TricMagic responds about my concerns regarding him seemingly agreeing with the reason heydude is voting for him while simultaneously thinking it's scummy, my vote stays where it is.

This game is unfortunately about drawing conclusions with incomplete information, very quickly, and then amending them as new information comes up. There's not much time for sitting on the fence waiting for that perfect evidence to drop into your lap.
I know, its part of the reason why I made that little possibility of using how much you like Tric as an excuse to lynch as it seems like a thing you definitely could do as scum and something I think you would possibly do with the hopes of no one adressing that fact and then being able to easily deflect suspicion off of you. Of course, I'm not sure about that, and as its only day one I feel the information gained is...lacking at the moment so I wont be jumping the gun yet.

I didn't say I wanted Tric lynched, at least not in the post I voted him. In my view there's a difference between voting someone and wanting them lynched. Back then I was voting him, now I'm okay with him being lynched, at least while I'm confuddled over his reasons for voting heydude. It just looks like a pre-emptive OMGUS to me.

OMGUS stands for Oh My God You Suck, and refers to a vote placed on someone else because the other person is voting them, or otherwise pressuring them.

For example, you leapt to TricMagic's defense very quickly and aggressively, making some significant assumptions regarding my motives which firmly set in my mind you were scum either protecting your scum partner or trying to buddy a townie.
I'm mostly trying to get information off of you, and I feel so quickly going after him considering the relationship you have with em sus, though I already said that.

You haven't really tried to get information off me since I voted Tric though. You questioned me about it, made some comments, then I took the lead with the questions.

Since then, you stepped off the gas a bit, explained your reasoning and have backpedaled your initial assertion that scum!me was setting the ground to push Town!Tric as an easy lynch. This could be Town!piratejoe figuring that I'm not doing that, or scum!piratejoe figuring that taking such a strong stand against me so early might not work in their favour, and the possible connection they have made with Tric (who could feasibly be town or scum in this case) is sufficient to drop it.
I mean, I never said that I trust you or that my thoughts on what you could be doing were suddenly removed. Just that I felt it wasn't sufficient to say you are scum and I'm not convinced that's the reason. Of course, you can prove me wrong in the future but that's for another time.

You didn't say you trusted me, but you implied you weren't going to press the issue with the tone of your posts. You were initially quite aggressive and softened when I responded, and you haven't pressed me on it since. Why not take the time to refine your view of me - one way or the other - now?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 31, 2019, 02:06:08 pm »
Sarah Sanders speaks for God now?

Also, didn’t y’all go to war about 2 and a half centuries back to end this divine right bullshit?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 30, 2019, 10:29:36 pm »
Missed a reference I think.

I don't think anyone was missing the reference.

I was, I thought it was referring to another body part.

Knowing it’s otherwise makes the references a lot less gruesome, I guess...

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 30, 2019, 08:57:05 pm »
... there's a PC-building simulator video game.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 30, 2019, 08:53:43 pm »
I'm scratching my head at you apparently agreeing with him and also thinking he's scummy because of it.

Why do you always wait, anyway? Generating talk yourself is a useful skill, as any alignment.

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 30, 2019, 06:07:35 pm »
You haven’t notably interacted with Leodanny either. I’d be more inclined to consider a connection there, given your lapse in memory there. Have you not finished coaching them in your scumchat yet?

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General Discussion / Re: [Why] Sssoomebody once told me- (Happy thread)
« on: January 30, 2019, 05:21:33 pm »
My dream, I thought it'd be out of reach. I've been real big d Depressed about this whole thing for the past couple years, but... I think I can get there. Even if I've gotta crawl there, inch by fucking inch. There's a lot in my life I worry about, but I think if I can just reach this dream, I'll be happy.

Hey man, without trying to belittle what you're trying to do, try to enjoy the journey toward the dream. At least if your dream doesn't turn out quite the way you're expecting, you have a wealth of new experience to draw on to go for the next one.

I was just sick a little in my mouth; I'm meant to be presenting as a misanthropist loner, stop making me seem so positive. /lol

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 30, 2019, 05:16:23 pm »
Does it make you feel lonely? :P

I want the newer folk to post more at this point so they can get more involved. You're not one of these players, and I suspect I'd gain little from your response to a random question anyway.
Why yes, it does make me feel left out. If you don't ask me a random question now, how can I rely on you to ask me the serious question later that I'll answer with such a cleverly spun lie that it vindicates me for the rest of the game?

Implying my skills at the game are not so good that by the time I'm asking you the serious question I won't have backed you into a corner from which you cannot escape :o

Counter question: You asked a random question to only half the other players. Are you the kind of player that would ask a random question to their scum partner or not?

Who said anything about gunning for Tric? It was my/the first post of the game, I wanted to make sure people were aware that they need to post to get anything out of it, whether that be enjoyment or learnin'. I also said the best way to get someone to talk was to vote them... so I did. Why do you think I'm voting him because I "don't like him and his tactics"?
Yes, I know the best way to get someone to talk is to vote for them but instantly voting him on your very first post specifically combined with what you stated and with what I know (which is admittedly part of one match if I'm not misremembering you and mixing you up with someone else) about your relationship with Tric when it comes to this kind of game is what makes me think that you might try using that as a cover to kill a town as scum. Course, its early and I don't have much in the way of info so far, so I will take and point out what I can.

I appreciate the initiative, and the thought behind it. You are correct that I'm not a fan of Tric's playstyle. What did you glean about me from my response?
It seems you want to get people to start posting and get to hunting scum but otherwise, I haven't gotten much yet, not enough to make any proper judgement in my opinion.

I think I fixed the formatting of that...

This game is unfortunately about drawing conclusions with incomplete information, very quickly, and then amending them as new information comes up. There's not much time for sitting on the fence waiting for that perfect evidence to drop into your lap.

For example, you leapt to TricMagic's defense very quickly and aggressively, making some significant assumptions regarding my motives which firmly set in my mind you were scum either protecting your scum partner or trying to buddy a townie.

Since then, you stepped off the gas a bit, explained your reasoning and have backpedaled your initial assertion that scum!me was setting the ground to push Town!Tric as an easy lynch. This could be Town!piratejoe figuring that I'm not doing that, or scum!piratejoe figuring that taking such a strong stand against me so early might not work in their favour, and the possible connection they have made with Tric (who could feasibly be town or scum in this case) is sufficient to drop it.

You are correct that I'm trying to get people to talk, but to what end? Am I doing it to look townie, or am I doing it because I am townie?

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 30, 2019, 03:51:05 pm »
Hector13: you asked a random question of everyone except me. Why so? Being the other IC doesn't make me trustworthy, does it?

Does it make you feel lonely? :P

I want the newer folk to post more at this point so they can get more involved. You're not one of these players, and I suspect I'd gain little from your response to a random question anyway.

This is a pretty interesting post, man. Lots to dig into. Also, lower-case h :P

Who said anything about gunning for Tric? It was my/the first post of the game, I wanted to make sure people were aware that they need to post to get anything out of it, whether that be enjoyment or learnin'. I also said the best way to get someone to talk was to vote them... so I did. Why do you think I'm voting him because I "don't like him and his tactics"?
Yes, I know the best way to get someone to talk is to vote for them but instantly voting him on your very first post specifically combined with what you stated and with what I know (which is admittedly part of one match if I'm not misremembering you and mixing you up with someone else) about your relationship with Tric when it comes to this kind of game is what makes me think that you might try using that as a cover to kill a town as scum. Course, its early and I don't have much in the way of info so far, so I will take and point out what I can.

I appreciate the initiative, and the thought behind it. You are correct that I'm not a fan of Tric's playstyle. What did you glean about me from my response?

Your suggestion I'm looking to get an easy kill suggests you don't think Tric's playstyle is good for town suggests that a) you think TricMagic's playstyle is not conducive to finding scum and b) TricMagic is Town. Your reasons for both, please.
Its less that I think Tric's playstyle is good, and more that I recall you complaining about it in the only other Mafia game on this forum I have been in, unless again, I'm confusing you with someone else. As for thinking Tric is town, that would rely on you being scum and trying to throw him under the bus. Of course, he's not clear to me, but depending on your responses to this I may or may not change that judgement.

What did you glean about Tric from my response?

TricMagic

You were asked a question you forgot to answer:

TricMagic, what are you waiting for?



It helps to bold a player's name so they see something you want them to see or respond to. Either click the B in the top row above the message window, or surround their name with the bold tags like this:

[b]<player's name here>[/b]

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Town of Salem Mafia [7/7]
« on: January 30, 2019, 03:31:06 pm »
To be perfectly honest I put my vote on you so you couldn't put your vote on me without looking scummy first.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: January 30, 2019, 03:28:58 pm »
That looks so staged you could charge for tickets, man.

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