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Other Games / Re: XMAS 2023 GIVEAWAY
« on: December 11, 2023, 12:19:21 am »
On December 24th, I'll also give out two steam codes for Odd Realm, a DF-like that is more relaxed, and cuter.

I’m a sucker for games like this, surprisingly enough, and I’ll probably actually put some effort into it :o

Please add me for Odd Realm.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 09, 2023, 10:18:00 pm »
Capitalism, prioritizing all the right skills.

Dude gets paid in one week what a lot of people might earn in a lifetime.

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Conversation implies mutual exchange of ideas. Strongpoint made up my position and then proceeded to argue with that. Quite frankly, I’m not needed for him to have an argument.

Strongpoint, the thing I posted says a majority wanted a two-state solution. I have no interest in enabling your hate.

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If you do want an honest opinion on the video, I’m more interested in the veracity than what she said.

How many people did they speak to before her?
How many voiced the same opinion?
How many voiced a different opinion?
If different opinions were voiced, why are they not in the video?
Has the video been staged?
Are the claims made about her accurate aside from what she said?
Is the guy who posted the video (who works for a Jewish lobbying organization) the one who recorded it? If not, who did? What are their credentials?

And all that jazz.

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Palestinians on the other hand... Reject peace and Insist on achieving a total military victory over a much stronger opponent

That’s what you said, that’s what I was responding to.

I don’t need the argument again. You’ve proven time and time again you will twist anything to suit your own ends, and I can’t be bothered with it.

https://www.arabbarometer.org/wp-content/uploads/what-palestinians-really-think-of-hamas-2023-10-26-08-4941.pdf

Posted before, but evidence against every point you made, not my problem whether or not you accept it.

If all it takes is one person to paint an entire people in any particular way, all the far-right leaders the world over must mean everyone is a bigot. Is everyone in the world a bigot?

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How many times do you need to be told that Palestinians /=/ Hamas?

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Forgotten in the Night: Mafia Victory
« on: December 09, 2023, 02:27:35 pm »
It became pretty clear they were scumhunting but it was late on D1 that happened, I would’ve been too focused on what came before that, as well as Imp dropping conversation points from the end of D1 (the shade thrown at Egan and I) on D2.

Serious, null tell there.

As I clearly did it as town.  So that's something at least I would do as town.  Everything mattered, every single bit.

A lot of the stuff I focus on are elements in a case to build toward someone being scum or town.

Unfortunately I’m horrible at building the cases simultaneously for one player, so tend towards confirmation bias of already held opinions, which is usually that they’re scum, because mild paranoia colours everything when I’m town.

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Forgotten in the Night: Mafia Victory
« on: December 09, 2023, 02:20:46 pm »
Hector, if we had forced a no-lynch successfully, who would you have N2 killed?  Or what else would you have done N2?

I wouldn’t, which is part of the reason why I didn’t want the game to continue beyond D2. Keeping the game in a low information state for as long as possible is a good move as scum, especially if you can do it without people noticing you’re doing it.

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Forgotten in the Night: Mafia Victory
« on: December 09, 2023, 02:00:21 pm »
What do you mean by “selfish town game”?

I probably would have found the points I raised against Imp suspicious when I was town too, probably to the point of convincing myself they were scum, because I’m silly like that. At least on D1.
It felt like you had information that you weren't sharing.  You didn't attempt to determine whether the Mafia would have a track-kill by asking the moderator (which feels like something you would do.)  You didn't push for a No Execution at 4p (which feels like something you would do.)  These are selfish plays because they rely on withholding information, which doesn't feel like your normal playstyle.

Imp was too invested in finding scum, so if you find that scummy, I'm not sure that most people would agree.

It became pretty clear they were scumhunting but it was late on D1 that happened, I would’ve been too focused on what came before that, as well as Imp dropping conversation points from the end of D1 (the shade thrown at Egan and I) on D2.

I might be conflating my desire as scum to find the easiest person to build a case on (and Imp posts a heck of a lot of stuff to build a case from!) as their first post on D2 was an obvious “I know who visited Max” that scum!me couldn’t let develop. I’m hopeful town!me would have reacted differently to that…

I don’t think I would’ve asked Tric about a scum track-kill, I don’t like asking about things I’m technically not supposed to know about in an effort to figure out a game. I absolutely would have been more vociferous about figuring it out if I were town though, and going to a D3, too.

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Forgotten in the Night: Mafia Victory
« on: December 09, 2023, 12:46:51 pm »
I found killing me very suspicious, but I'm not surprised nobody else did. I mentioned it in the spec chat... I think the only other one who would've done that in that case was Egan, who was just definitely town.

Why did you visit Egan, btw? I thought that was an odd decision, visiting someone you were so vociferous about being town.

I killed you in part because you were an obvious watch target, and because you pocketed Egan a bit better than I did D1, and because I could only deal with one of you and Imp being insightful on D2.

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Forgotten in the Night: Mafia Victory
« on: December 09, 2023, 12:36:21 pm »
Could’ve done with more vote counts, but other than that I thought it was good.

It was maybe a bit OP I could both kill and track at the same time, but I don’t think I’d ever do it to two different targets, as my playstyle does tend to draw attention. On the other hand, going into D2 without any information whatsoever would have been unpleasant, and I needed to remove one of Imp or Max, so not killing was not an option.

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Forgotten in the Night: Mafia Victory
« on: December 09, 2023, 12:22:57 pm »
Yeah Egan claiming who Max visited before I did really messed me up D2, and the idea of a track-kill (they were actually separate, I could have visited another person to track but too risky) should have been explored a lot better.

Your first hint it was hector should've been when he was postulating that Imp was Mafia, because Imp was scumhunting very well, but hector did play pretty well by making sure no one found that.  I think this version of hector played a rather selfish Town game, so it would've been worth investigating exactly that further.

The takeaway from this game is probably "If you don't know who it is, find out who it isn't and work backwards."  It was safe to say it wasn't Imp, and Egan_BW was cleared by hector13, which means that it had to be hector13 in your eyes, Crystal.

What do you mean by “selfish town game”?

I probably would have found the points I raised against Imp suspicious when I was town too, probably to the point of convincing myself they were scum, because I’m silly like that. At least on D1.

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If it’s because you’re happy it’s golden.

Quite frankly I like seeing your posts. I don’t read the book, but it’s great to see someone being passionate about something they really care about.

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The fuck is that a reason to be sorry for? It’s the happy thread, if it’s not for this sort of thing I don’t know what it is for.

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Mafia / Re: A Mischief of Birbs: Day 2 - Slip a bird on the barbie (4/6)
« on: December 08, 2023, 10:08:13 pm »
Crystalizedmire

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