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General Discussion / Re: Israel-Gaza/Palestine war thread
« on: December 03, 2023, 04:45:41 am »
Israel was able to completely blockade Gaza, so never mind de-facto or de-jure independence, Gazans under blockade were de-dead or dying as a result, and the only thing that ended that barbarity was pressure from the international community.
Speaking of which, international recognition for Palestine doesn’t have anything to do with how Israel is choosing to prosecute the war.
What is internationally recognized is that Gaza and the West Bank are occupied territories, including the Supreme Court of Israel, at least as far as the West Bank is concerned. You can’t be both occupied and independent.
Regardless, I’m sure you’ll forgive me for taking their word over yours.
The stated war goal is to eliminate Hamas, not raze Gaza, or “remove Gazan independence” which doesn’t exist anyway.
I’ve got no interest in painting Israel badly, they manage that fine on their own. Even the US is telling them be more careful with their targets, and to avoid critical infrastructure.
You were conflating Hamas and Palestinians again. It’s important to point these fallacies out. Like when you make things up to support a position, or try to equate completely different things.
Based on…?
Quick Google suggests Hamas has 25k members, Latvian forces, including reserves, number ~50k, plus an annual budget of a touch under €1 billion, so… yeah. Your personal opinion doesn’t necessarily gel with reality, like with Gazan independence.
I highlight this only because of how ridiculous it is; it still has nothing to do with Gaza.
Speaking of which, international recognition for Palestine doesn’t have anything to do with how Israel is choosing to prosecute the war.
What is internationally recognized is that Gaza and the West Bank are occupied territories, including the Supreme Court of Israel, at least as far as the West Bank is concerned. You can’t be both occupied and independent.
Regardless, I’m sure you’ll forgive me for taking their word over yours.
The stated war goal is to eliminate Hamas, not raze Gaza, or “remove Gazan independence” which doesn’t exist anyway.
I’ve got no interest in painting Israel badly, they manage that fine on their own. Even the US is telling them be more careful with their targets, and to avoid critical infrastructure.
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Since when do people disliking the government stops it from being a government
You were conflating Hamas and Palestinians again. It’s important to point these fallacies out. Like when you make things up to support a position, or try to equate completely different things.
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And yet I consider HAMAS far more deadly force than the Latvian army. It is larger, more professional, better trained...
Based on…?
Quick Google suggests Hamas has 25k members, Latvian forces, including reserves, number ~50k, plus an annual budget of a touch under €1 billion, so… yeah. Your personal opinion doesn’t necessarily gel with reality, like with Gazan independence.
I highlight this only because of how ridiculous it is; it still has nothing to do with Gaza.