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General Discussion / Re: Israel-Gaza/Palestine war thread
« on: December 03, 2023, 04:45:41 am »
Israel was able to completely blockade Gaza, so never mind de-facto or de-jure independence, Gazans under blockade were de-dead or dying as a result, and the only thing that ended that barbarity was pressure from the international community.

Speaking of which, international recognition for Palestine doesn’t have anything to do with how Israel is choosing to prosecute the war.

What is internationally recognized is that Gaza and the West Bank are occupied territories, including the Supreme Court of Israel, at least as far as the West Bank is concerned. You can’t be both occupied and independent.

Regardless, I’m sure you’ll forgive me for taking their word over yours.

The stated war goal is to eliminate Hamas, not raze Gaza, or “remove Gazan independence” which doesn’t exist anyway.

I’ve got no interest in painting Israel badly, they manage that fine on their own. Even the US is telling them be more careful with their targets, and to avoid critical infrastructure.

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Since when do people disliking the government stops it from being a government

You were conflating Hamas and Palestinians again. It’s important to point these fallacies out. Like when you make things up to support a position, or try to equate completely different things.

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And yet I consider HAMAS far more deadly force than the Latvian army. It is larger, more professional, better trained...

Based on…?

Quick Google suggests Hamas has 25k members, Latvian forces, including reserves, number ~50k, plus an annual budget of a touch under €1 billion, so… yeah. Your personal opinion doesn’t necessarily gel with reality, like with Gazan independence.

I highlight this only because of how ridiculous it is; it still has nothing to do with Gaza.

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General Discussion / Re: Israel-Gaza/Palestine war thread
« on: December 03, 2023, 12:46:18 am »
Malice in the context of the quote just means intentional shittyness, so if he let it happen on purpose it would totally count.
And even having taken the threat seriously, unless the IDF was going to launch a pre-emptive strike in Gaza (which I'm sure you'd've loved,) it would've had to be countered as it happened, which was an uncertain date a year later.
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The translated document, which was reviewed by The New York Times, did not set a date for the attack, but described a methodical assault designed to overwhelm the fortifications around the Gaza Strip, take over Israeli cities and storm key military bases, including a division headquarters.
Hamas followed the blueprint with shocking precision. The document called for a barrage of rockets at the outset of the attack, drones to knock out the security cameras and automated machine guns along the border, and gunmen to pour into Israel en masse in paragliders, on motorcycles and on foot — all of which happened on Oct. 7.
They knew Hamas's plan of attack, even if they didn't know the exact date increasing security at those locations would have been trivial, albeit expensive.
They could have also sent their spies to try to figure out the date so they would have been ready.

They could also have listened when Egypt told them about something big going down in the days leading up to the attack.



@Strongpoint

I don’t know why I bother, but here goes.

The Israeli blockade of Gaza is in no way, shape, or form similar the US embargo of Cuba. From the Wikipedia page:

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Despite the existence of the embargo, Cuba can, and does, conduct international trade with many countries, including many US allies; however, US-based companies, and companies that do business with the US, which trade in Cuba do so at the risk of US sanctions.[11] Cuba has been a member of the World Trade Organization since 1995.[12] The European Union is Cuba's largest trading partner, and the United States is the fifth-largest exporter to Cuba (6.6% of Cuba's imports come from the US).[13] The Cuban government must, however, pay cash for all food imports from the United States, as credit is not allowed.[14]

Israel controls the land, sea, and air of Gaza, and was happy enough to deny basics like food, medicine (both of which are allowed to be traded with Cuba and the US), fuel, and water into Gaza, with catastrophic results.

Also, Latvia has modern military equipment, some of which they even donated to Ukraine.

What the situation in Cuba and Latvia have to do with Gaza is beyond me though; regardless, Gaza is not a “de facto” country, don’t be absurd. We already went over the surveys in which a majority of Palestinians don’t like Hamas, but Hamas are an authoritarian terrorist regime, they regularly abuse people who speak out against them. Let’s not get back into the whole “group versus subgroup versus individual” thing, please. Hamas /=/ Gaza

As time goes on and more is revealed it seems more and more likely Bibi deliberately allowed the attack to happen to facilitate his other goals. I mean, put yourself in Bibi's position. Bibi just received this report. Bibi was deeply unpopular with his people. Bibi was under investigation for corruption. Bibi knows what kind of a boost wartime leaders usually get. And Bibi has no limits or qualms to what he would do to stay in power. Imagine how easy it would be for this report to just slip off the table, saying it's not feasible. So simple.

Honestly, why wouldn't he do it?

Because that would be quite an evil thing to do.  That goes way beyond corruption to allow the death of 100s of your own people.  And I don't think someone in his position would be that evil.

Oh, my sweet summer child… history is littered with examples of leaders allowing their people to suffer just so they could cling on to power.

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Life Advice / Re: Represent where you are psychologically, in a calming way
« on: December 02, 2023, 11:06:26 pm »
Just trying to stick to the eye of an ever more intense storm, and occasionally being buffeted by the winds when it does something unexpected.

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General Discussion / Re: Israel-Gaza/Palestine war thread
« on: December 02, 2023, 10:41:30 pm »
I don’t think it would be malice more than it’d be unbridled ambition, though I guess that would depend on if you were referring to the dead Palestinians or the dead Israelis.

He also wouldn’t get the credit for foiling the attack, the security services would.

Regardless of the hows and whys, he’s using it as an excuse to toe his “I’m the only one that can protect you from Hamas” schtick, which he’s built his career on. What’s a few thousand Palestinians to make political stock?

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Keep at him, Kevin, not a moment of respite!

Kevin goes on the offensive, I’ll look for openings with Frostbite, aiming for the area around his feet and legs to cause some icy areas so he might slip. Use the Maunder Minimum on Jon too, if possible to do this without necessarily being within touching distance, to make it easier to have icy spots appear.


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I built a PC and then vowed to buy a graphics card at some point.

That was 8 years ago, and the little 1GB of VRAM graphics chip has lasted all that time. It went a bit bananas at one point when it refused to have the proper graphics when I ran FM20 in full screen, but it was alright if I ran the game windowed, so… yeah.

Probably the game’s fault tbf, there were other issues with it like sometimes just refusing to run for no apparent reason. Sometimes I could restart the PC to fix it, sometimes I had to delete the preferences folder, sometimes I had to do delete it multiple times… then fix it to run windowed again.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: December 01, 2023, 03:41:49 pm »
Taylor Greene was immediately on the social medias blasting the decision to reduce their majority, because clearly that’s the only thing that matters.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: November 30, 2023, 05:58:37 pm »
My mom put carpet in the bathroom. It's not a full carpet, just a small little U-shaped rug that the ends go around the toilet. Still, it's plush, and more importantly, a carpet. In the bathroom. Ew.

I have always wondered why people would put a carpet in a place in which urine might end up.

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General Discussion / Re: Armchair Economics Thread - Re-Resurrection
« on: November 29, 2023, 10:33:19 am »
The airline was nationalized in ‘08, and hasn’t made a profit since. It’s projected to lose more than $100 million this year, and improvement over last years losses of ~$250 million.

Privatizing it will cost jobs, benefits, working conditions, and the consumer as they cut unprofitable routes.

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Mafia / Re: FBYOR 6 aka Personalized Invitation Mafia (13 / 9+)
« on: November 28, 2023, 09:11:01 pm »
Don’t start a game on a weekend, brah.

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Oh that escalated a bit. I thought it was just the license plates they were refusing to deliver, but it’s all mail? Damn.

This is surely going to get to the point that it’s going to cost Tesla more to avoid signing a CBA than it’s going to cost them by signing it, both in terms of money and damage to their reputation.

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Hate crimes against Jews and Muslims have been on the rise since the start of the war. Real shit has already started.

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My contention was that Strongpoint called minor Palestinian detainees violent terrorists and I gave examples of some minor detainees who had been imprisoned for apparently nothing, and things that aren’t terrorism.

Throwing stones is violent. Throwing stones is not terrorism, else the accusation listed against them would not be “throwing stones”.

Incitement to violence is as nebulous as “supporting terrorism”. It can also be quite insidious. Politicians the world over incite people to violence using euphemism and innuendo.

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