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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol: Trump at Davos
« on: January 26, 2018, 08:11:13 am »
Snowden isn’t a member of the press, like EH says.
wierd and martinuzz appear to be arguing from the ideological position of the Free Press (any interference regardless of how small means no free press) and if the reality doesn’t match up to that lofty position, then the press ain’t free. Shonus was arguing that in spite of these interferences, articles are still published and journalists are generally unmolested, so the press can be said to be free
I mean, wierd said:
which, yes, but some of those censors even come from within the press itself. There are editors and owners with their own agendas, they can censor their own journalists from investigating or publishing certain things, or put a certain spin on it instead. That’s the free press limiting the free press.
wierd and martinuzz appear to be arguing from the ideological position of the Free Press (any interference regardless of how small means no free press) and if the reality doesn’t match up to that lofty position, then the press ain’t free. Shonus was arguing that in spite of these interferences, articles are still published and journalists are generally unmolested, so the press can be said to be free
I mean, wierd said:
Rather, I was trying to get you to see that censorship in the press takes more forms than just government control, and that when these forces exist, it is not a free press.
which, yes, but some of those censors even come from within the press itself. There are editors and owners with their own agendas, they can censor their own journalists from investigating or publishing certain things, or put a certain spin on it instead. That’s the free press limiting the free press.