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Other Games / Re: How did you last *own*?
« on: October 24, 2023, 02:32:05 am »
Finished Demon’s Souls, kind of underwhelming. Don’t think I scratched the surface too much, but beyond that the last six or seven bosses I did were pretty easy and not that memorable, other than the Storm King, that was probably the highlight of the game.

Might do another run at some point; I was going to get to Ed and see if I could get Northern Regalia before remembering I’d have to fight the Firelurker first, and that was one of the two bosses I had the most trouble with. Ah well, onto Disco Elysium.

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That cake looks gay.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 23, 2023, 02:32:47 am »
The important difference is immutable traits. Wanting to get rid of people because they have a certain amount of melanin in their skin is very different from wanting to get rid of people because they want to get rid of people with a certain amount of melanin in their skin. Just like wanting to restrain someone and lock them in a room for sexual stuff is very different from wanting to restrain someone and lock them in a room for wanting to restrain someone and lock them in a room for sexual stuff. Racism and hatred of racism are not equal beliefs.

Also, Hector, if Hitler was not released after 5 years for his first coup attempt, there would not be a Nazi Germany. So I'd say they simply were not hard enough on him.

He got released barely a year later. There was a lot more to the rise of the Nazis than just Hitler though. Economic woes of the 20s combined with some foolish political decisions within and without Germany, to put it (over)simply.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2023, 06:51:49 pm »
Generally though people stop wanting to be a thing that gets them popped in the jaw long before you end up actually killing them

That’s why Naziism died in the early 1920s when Hitler was jailed for attempting to overthrow a regional government oh wait I mean the late 1930s when Britain declared war on them oh wait I mean in the first half of the 1940s when there was a war on you know oh wait I mean the latter half of the 1940s when several high profile Nazis were sentenced to death for war crimes oh wait it’s still extant 80 years later and people being confronted with violence for their beliefs are inexplicably unwilling to change their beliefs wow who’d have thought.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 22, 2023, 03:20:29 pm »
Do what?

Beating people up, kicking asses, murdering people, the stuff you're always going on about.
Murdering people? I'm talking about nazis here, not people.
You might not like it, but even Nazis have some good in them. There are indeed charities set up by former members of various neo-Nazi groups to help people get out of them, after all.

You might like to think they’re irredeemable, but life ain’t black and white like that. Pun mostly unintended.

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General Discussion / Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
« on: October 22, 2023, 03:14:38 pm »
None of the other Sith managed to get as much done against the Jedi as the banite ones, though, which was Bane’s ultimate goal.

Admittedly they also didn’t quite succeed, but at least in the legend book on Plagueis, he did betray the Rule of Two thing when he became immortal and was content to remain master of Sidious while he was doing the whole chancellor business, but then Palpatine also betrayed it by killing Plagueis in his sleep, so…

One of the bigger issues I had with it was the focus on patience, even if it made sense with two Sith against thousands of Jedi, but patience isn’t really a Sith tenet.

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General Discussion / Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
« on: October 22, 2023, 12:41:51 pm »
Does being a Sith require being suicidal? Because that's the only way this would work, no? Otherwise every Sith ever would only get an apprentice that can only get stronger than them when they're on the death bed for unrelated reasons, and can't fight right anymore.
The culmination of thousands of years of that would be the wimpiest, most incompetent guy in the galaxy. #Darth_Jar-Jar

That would be a betrayal of the Rule of Two. The apprentice is supposed to learn all they can from the master and then challenge them. If the master wins it’s technically a failure on their part for choosing a poor apprentice.

I’m not sure if it’s old or new canon but the third Sith Lord had to replace their first apprentice because they didn’t adhere to that part of the code, and the first Sith Lord was worried their apprentice was going to wait until he died and inheriting the title (as opposed to earning it) so he took steps to extend his life in an effort to be able to find and train a new apprentice. This resulted in his apprentice accusing him of betraying the code because it looked like he was trying to bypass the apprentice becoming the master schtick he’s been teaching her for the previous two and a bit decades.

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General Discussion / Re: what tv shows are you currently watching?
« on: October 22, 2023, 11:30:32 am »
Broadly speaking, The Sith are all about destroying the Jedi, whereas a dark Jedi was basically someone trained by the Jedi who fell to the dark side.

The Rule of Two is the important bit for the Sith, having one master to train a new heir and one apprentice who will eventually destroy the master, the idea being that each new master is stronger than the last.

Palpatine is basically, prior to the New Canon, the culmination of thousands of years of that.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 21, 2023, 09:39:16 pm »
He supported Biden in 2020, but didn’t renounce any of the white supremacist nonsense

This article amuses me greatly. Imagine a president so pro-Israel that a white supremacist criticizes the killing of an Iranian general and voices his support for the other party's candidate.

I think Spencer just realized Trump doesn’t have ideals, he just wants the people to like him.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 21, 2023, 09:05:17 pm »
Punch Nazis, presumably.

I see no Henry Joneses here.

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Israel cracks down on social media support for folk living in Gaza, including people losing their jobs and students being asked to leave their accommodation.

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… even when no criminal charges are filed, some people in Israel are still facing heavy consequences for their social media activity.

Lawyers working for Adalah say they have received more than 40 cases of Israeli Arab workers suspended or fired from their workplaces overnight.

"People are getting their livelihood threatened sometimes just for liking a post," says Salam Irsheid, a lawyer at the organisation. "We even have a case of a worker who is at risk of being fired for liking a news report on the situation in Gaza on social media."

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Lawyers from Adalah say they have received complaints from 83 students who have been suspended from schools across the country and, in some cases, told to leave their accommodation at short notice.

"None of the cases are about actions, demonstrations or participating in illegal things. They're all about posts on social media," says Dr Hassan Jabareen, the general director of Adalah.

It’s not limited to Arabs, either:

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Last Sunday, a prominent left-wing ultra-Orthodox Jewish journalist, Israel Frey, had to be escorted by police away from his home in Tel Aviv for his own protection.

Protesters had gathered outside the building and shot flares at his apartment after he posted on social media a video where he was praying for civilians in Gaza.

And on Wednesday, Ofer Cassif, a Jewish lawmaker for the Arab-led Hadash-Taal alliance, was suspended from the Israeli parliament for 45 days after he strongly condemned the bombing of Gaza.

In one of his most recent posts on X, formerly known as Twitter, he criticised the police who, he said, hadn't intervened promptly in Mr Frey's defence.

"Armed police forces are sent to arrest anyone who shows a trace of empathy for the massacres in Gaza," he wrote.

"But the police have no desire to protect a left-wing journalist whose life is in danger."

Settlers in the West Bank force Palestinians from their homes.

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The incident began when two armed settlers, accompanied by a soldier, attacked a home on the outskirts of the village, according to three residents including the homeowner.

"Three Israelis came to my house, they were armed, and one was wearing the uniform of the army," said Musab Rabai, 36.

"One of the settlers came into the house, pushed me and beat me on the head with the gun and told me he was going to shoot me."

Neighbours responded to Rabai's shouts for help, he said. Among them was Zakriha Adra, a father of four. Video footage filmed by Adra's cousin, Basel, shows the settler who allegedly beat Rabai and the Israeli soldier standing a short distance away from the group of Palestinian neighbours. The armed settler then suddenly approaches Adra, strikes him with his rifle and shoots him in the stomach from just a few feet away.

Throughout the encounter, Adra appears to be holding his arms by his sides in a non-threatening manner.

Israel razes a neighbourhood (after what appears to be 30 minutes notice to evacuate) and issued an evacuation notice for a hospital.

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Residents told the BBC that they had not expected the bombing as the area had been relatively calm. They said they were told to evacuate on Thursday evening at around 20:30 to 21:00 local time (17:30-18:00 GMT).

"We ran through the streets. then Israel started bombing this area non-stop, from 9pm to 7am this morning," one woman told the BBC on Friday.

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In northern Gaza, the Palestinian Red Crescent said Israeli forces had ordered the evacuation of the Al-Quds hospital.

The hospital is currently home to more than 400 patients and 12,000 displaced civilians, according to the Red Crescent.

The humanitarian organisation called on the "international community to act urgently".
A doctors' group, Physicians for Human Rights Israel, said it filed a petition to Israel's Supreme Court warning that Al-Quds hospital could not be evacuated.

"In its response, the state announced that it would not attack the hospital for the time being," the group said, as it warned against harming civilians during combat, violating international law, and damaging medical services.

Edit: Ha! Found the one I read yesterday about hate crimes in London.

Big increases:

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Speaking on Friday, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Ade Adelekan, the officer in charge of the policing operation, said the number of antisemitic and Islamophobic incidents had gone up 1,353% [from 15 to 218] and 140% [42 to 101] respectively.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 20, 2023, 10:59:52 pm »
He got popped six years ago and helped organize the unite the right rally eight months later, where he was recorded using slurs afterward.

He supported Biden in 2020, but didn’t renounce any of the white supremacist nonsense, basically just said Trump wasn’t what he hoped for and that “we will have our time in the sun again”, which sounds an awful lot more like he’s just Biden his time, if you’ll excuse the pun.

The bit that concerns me most:

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"The MAGA/Alt-Right moment is over. I made mistakes; Trump is an obvious disaster; but mainly the paradigm contained flaws that we now are able to perceive. And it needs to end," Spencer wrote. "So be patient. We'll have another day in the sun. We need to recover and return in a new form."

In another tweet, Spencer added: "I will never flip on my fundamental principles. (My principles were never voting for the supposed 'the lesser or two evils' or 'stopping big government.')

So yeah, he’s quiet, which is good, but probably not gone.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 20, 2023, 06:05:23 pm »
The sort of people calling for lynching are very rarely the people actually performing the lynchings, as evidence by Donald Trump not marching in the Capital with his supporters.

Not allowing them to get that message out by having them say it in the national media is probably a decent start to stopping people hearing it.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 20, 2023, 05:44:31 pm »
I said nothing about debating them or taking the belief seriously, I said to treat them like a human being, and their concerns seriously. Job prospects and school places and housing costs are concerns, wanting to lynch all the non-white folks because of it is the belief.

Hate is a learned response, and you don’t make it go away by punching someone. Did Richard Spencer stop talking about white supremacy because someone punched him? No. Did he leave America because someone punched him? No. Did he learn that white supremacy was an idiotic belief? No.

Did him getting punched put him (and his views!) in the national, even global, spotlight? Abso-fuckin’-lutely. How is that a good thing? The problem isn’t the people, or even the idea, per se. The problem is the idea spreading and it being acceptable to have someone like Richard Spencer in the media claiming he’s the victim because someone sucker punched him over his views, and then being allowed to voice those views in the bullshit way that racists try to couch things to make it more palatable to people.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 20, 2023, 01:40:16 pm »
It’s not his supporters that are to be worried about, I said potential supporters, folk on the fence about him. He won’t be getting punished for an attempted fascist takeover, he’ll be getting punished for speaking, which is going to make it seem like what he says about there being a conspiracy against him will be true.

It does matter that his supporters (as potential ones) get angry, because anger is a ridiculously good motivator - I don’t like arguing with people on the interweb, I have been involved in an argument with an interweb stranger for the last two days because they blame a professional for the consequences of ignoring the professional opinion - and it defies logic. Trump and the Republicans have been saying the electoral infrastructure is broken and biased against them… yet they still take part in elections. His angry supporters will come out in their droves to vote and make it difficult for the election workers to do their job. That’s a bit more problematic than them shitting their pants.

When was the last time you changed your opinion because someone said “well you’re a fucking idiot for believing that, moron”? Fascists aren’t above using political violence. I mean that’s part of their jam, so mocking them and ostracizing them won’t make them go away, it won’t make them change their mind, it just gives them targets for that violence. Treating them like human beings and that you treat their concerns as serious (however trivial or out of touch with reality) will work much better, but the political geography doesn’t allow Montagues and Capulets to mix so it’s not going to happen.

Take Lisa Cameron as an example. Long story short and vastly oversimplifying things, she was an SNP politician who recently defected to the Conservatives because the SNP were mean to her and the Conservatives were nice.

Edit: Jordan’s also out as the speaker nominee. Democrats being blamed by angry Republicans, because it’s obviously the Dem’s fault Republicans can’t come to an agreement ::)

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