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Mafia / Re: Supernatural Mafia 9 - Day 1 Assembles
« on: October 03, 2017, 04:55:03 pm »
Two is likely, yes, but that doesn't mean it is the case. Potential for TPs also makes it weird.

ATH said it so matter-of-fact-like that it seemed they knew that there was two and only two, rather than they were just guessing.

There's nothing else to go on right now to be fair, other than BHK for me.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural Mafia 9 - Day 1 Assembles
« on: October 03, 2017, 04:44:59 pm »
I'll likely only vote one of BHK or ATH by the end of the day, depending on how the counts turn out and if my vote will actually change anything.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 03, 2017, 03:08:18 pm »
6) Plant evolves further to eat humans. Plant becomes dominant species.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural Mafia 9 - Day 1 Assembles
« on: October 03, 2017, 02:02:41 pm »
EBWOP

BHK

You "missed" a few things from me that perhaps demand a response:

After I dropped a vote on Shakerag.

hector13: You sure about this vote?

Who else should I be voting for, like?

When you said you weren't rolefishing.

You asked about a specific role and what someone thought regarding that. 'Tis about the extent of rolefishing is it not? Especially in a game like this when we know there are roles but not necessarily what they do.

Also, you can... dis... uh... the uhm... basically you can figure out whether or not someone has a particular role depending on the answer they give. Whatever the fucking word is that I can't quite get out. This is useful for night actions, mostly the scum NK so they can figure out who has the powerful town roles and get them out the game quicker. Just because the role you ask about is innocuous does not mean you're not rolefishing nor that said rolefishing is much more useful to scum than town at this point.

At least that's what I'd say if I wanted to push you as scum. Probably. Cannae push yer granny aff a bus, push push.

Anyhow, seeing as I'm aware you learned to play Mafia in a place that (maybe) seems to think the night game is the all important part of Mafia (lol) and if you are scum this'll at least get you to do something pro-town, perhaps you can tell us how the Sexton can be useful otherwise, in case someone got it and is fucked off completely regarding its apparent uselessness.

This one after you said the sexton role was probably the same in this game as all the others.

Why did you ask about it, then?

What about ATH were you going to learn/have you learned from their answer?

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural Mafia 9 - Day 1 Assembles
« on: October 03, 2017, 01:56:49 pm »
Bwuuuh busyness strikes :-[ :-\

Quickreeds! Because three pages isn't enough :P And because its not enough, I'm not putting town/scum stickers, but my feelings and what I like.
    hector13 - Poke poke queries! Feels nice to see queries and mutual exchange, rather than queries directed to seem active and magnify a point early on. Then it got cut off at these times.

Well, the person I was poking disappeared - or was ignoring me - and it slid into the weekend when I have other obligations, thus didn't want to start a discussion with anyone knowing I wouldn't be able to keep it going.

The only other interesting person was Shakerag, who was drawing a lot of ire from suggesting he didn't read his PM. Unfortunately the discussion that prompted was regarding mafia theory, which is of negligible use for reading folks. He'll likely draw some attention during the night though.

Anyway, to answer TDS' question:

Unvote

Oh there's only 9 players why did I think there were more.

Er...

ATH

This stuck out on a re-read:

But if your scum then you could potentially be reaming into your scum partner and end up lynching him/Her which would be disadvantageous for you since usually, two heads are better than one.

'cause there's no mention of the number of scum in the game.

I'm also somewhat nonplussed regarding the lack of voting, even FoS'ing. I understand the day will end on everyone using their vote, but come on guys, 5 hours left in the day (I think) and there's a... probably RVS? vote and a handful of FoSes.

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Mafia / Re: Supernatural Mafia 9 - Day 1 Assembles
« on: October 02, 2017, 11:44:12 am »
Extend

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It didn't, I just like to make things awkward for everyone.

Visual medium, the message is pretty clear to be honest.

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Looks more like a pained grimace to me.

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Completely guessing, but the first panel is "hello I can post my ballot in the election, please?"

The second panel thus, still guessing, is "wait, what are you d- hey stop!" or something.

Message being clear though. Silly Rajoy with your silly political repression.

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they were just trying to express their opinion (by voting)
They were voting in a referendum made legally binding by Puigdemont and the Catalan government, as given by the Catalans' referendum bill (struck down by the national supreme court but Puigdemont et al. disregarded the verdict anyways), to commit something that was illegal.

Can I have a legally binding referendum to commit theft? Not to change the law against theft, but to actually break it?

EDIT: In other news, the EU Commission has released a statement.

That comes down to the rule of law thing again; Puigdemont as a regional politician has no actual power beyond his natural charm and charisma to make it legally binding, particularly since the Constitutional Court in Spain said it wasn't.

This essentially made it an unofficial government poll. Madrid could easily let it go ahead have and ignored the result, then prosecuted Puigdemont et al like they did to Arthur Mas after 2014.

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What is it about the law that is so paramount in this instance, da nang?

Laws aren't absolute infallible things, and they are even less so when it comes to things like borders and sovereignty.

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Puigdemont announced this months ago, the ball has been in Rajoy's court since then and there was a lot more he could've done to deal with the problem between then and now. That likely wouldn't involve the police kicking the shit out of the locals for daring to want a say in how they're ruled.

Ninja'd but whatevs. I'm not a fan of violent political repression. Did not expect to be saying that about Spain.

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Are all the Spanish politicians this fucking supid, or are Rajoy and Puigdemont special cases?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 01, 2017, 10:00:42 am »
Nicotine is a stimulant, and is very quick to work. Consequently, it's highly addictive. You may only smoke once or twice out of curiousity, but then it has its hooks in you.

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BTW they didnt want to let them do a referendum, binding or not, period.

Also, Puigdemont said he wouldnt declare independence unilaterally.

I'm kind of wondering about what kind of news are people listening to because everyone here seems to idealize or demonize the nationalists. And guys, the situation is far more nuanced than that. The referendum is very flawed the way it was laid down, but its also an  understsndable move after 30 years of broken promises

Well someone clearly is preparing to declare independence within 48 hours.

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The Catalan government insists that the results of the October vote will be legally binding. If successful, the regional government will declare independence from Spain 48 hours after the result is in and set about building a sovereign state.

And without the consent of Spain, that's textbook definition of unilateral secession.

EDIT: So he changed his mind because of the crackdown?

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Puigdemont originally said that if the “yes” vote won, the Catalan government would declare independence within 48 hours, but regional leaders have since acknowledged Madrid’s crackdown has undermined the vote.

Perhaps they are referring to the fear that if you go out to vote you'll likely get hurt, and that will make the vote become non-representative of the views in the region.

Also, if the people voted to become independent and Puigdemont declares such, it doesn't really matter because nobody of any influence in the world is going to recognise it. Rajoy knows this, yet is still happy to use violence to get them to stop, instead of making the Catalans feel like they're a valued part of Spain.

This is not a good thing.

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