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General Discussion / Re: Non-EU europe thread (with Russia, Israel and Australia included)
« on: October 07, 2023, 10:38:10 pm »
I mean… Gaza is basically under siege by Israel. They control land, sea, and air access (with Egypt) and are quite happy to allow their citizenry to abuse and harass Palestinians if it makes them leave - a situation which is not limited to Palestinians.

This is the same Israel with a far-right government that passed a law that only Jews are entitled to self-determination in Israel.

So yeah, without going into more detail on the horrific things allowed by the Israeli government enacted upon the Palestinians, I don’t condone at all what Hamas are doing, but when their back is to the wall and they keep getting pushed by someone that wants to eliminate them, physically, culturally, or both, and the international community has basically abandoned them to that fate… what other option do they have?

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 06, 2023, 11:58:06 pm »
Quote from: Maximum Spin on October 06, 2023, 11:04:14 pm
Quote from: hector13 on October 06, 2023, 10:59:45 pm
Isn’t there a lot of the constitution that can be read as pro-slavery as well as anti-slavery?
Like I said, it's a series of compromises. However, the main thrust of the compromises is to limit the power of the slave states, not to increase it - so there's a time limit before Congress can ban the slave trade, but it's still affirmatively able to do so at that point when it didn't have to have the power at all, or slave owners are allowed to count the slave population for purposes of representation in Congress (even though they don't get to vote, effectively multiplying the slaveowners' votes), but only at a ratio of 3:5.

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Equally so, the cotton gin only made processing cotton easier. The resulting boom in the textile industry meant an increase in demand for cotton, the cultivation of which meant slavery wasn’t really going to go away soon.
Right, that's the point I was making: the invention of the cotton gin ended the previous paradigm of assuming that slavery was becoming unprofitable.

Ah right, just me misinterpreting what you were saying. I thought you meant the cotton gin made it easier to abolish slavery, which was a silly interpretation.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 06, 2023, 10:59:45 pm »
Isn’t there a lot of the constitution that can be read as pro-slavery as well as anti-slavery?

Equally so, the cotton gin only made processing cotton easier. The resulting boom in the textile industry meant an increase in demand for cotton, the cultivation of which meant slavery wasn’t really going to go away soon.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 06, 2023, 03:16:48 am »
The EC just moves the influence from larger states to swing states.

But yeah, the two kinds of “fair” representation are covered by congress and the senate. Congress gives everybody’s vote more or less the same weight (I think it’s 750k people/congressional seat? It’s late and I don’t want to check right now) which favours bigger states - not considering gerrymandering in this, which is another kettle of fish - while the senate is all the states get two senators, which favours small states.

I’m not sure how to make the EC more equitable, but as I say, all it does is shift the outsize influence someplace else.

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Mafia / Re: Jade Court 2 - Return Of The Onyx Cabal! (0 / 10+)
« on: October 05, 2023, 09:32:16 pm »
Prioritizing Trigonometry Womanizing

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: October 05, 2023, 09:08:26 pm »
Was just reading through Neil Morrisey’s filmography, came across a film called “I Bought a Vampire Motorcycle”.

From the plot summary:

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Noddy and Kim get Chinese food. When Kim orders garlic prawns, the bike drives off with her. It takes her under a bridge, throws her off, and makes advances at her. When it notices a crucifix around her neck, the bike drives back to the pub…

and from a reviewer:

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”…there is no justification for including the scene in which the bike pursues a high heeled prostitute down a dark alley.”

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 05, 2023, 01:14:16 pm »
Mostly the ignoring of federal laws protecting the environment, animals, and clean water.

The EC’s job was to stop an uninformed majority voting for a tyrant… which worked real good last time, and ignores the fact the uninformed majority already vote for the members of the Senate and Congress.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 05, 2023, 01:05:37 pm »
It’s as pointless to build a wall under Biden as it was to build one under Trump.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 09:42:35 pm »
You say at lower levels, it’s for congressional districts a lot of the time. The Speaker of the House is 2nd in line to the presidency if something horrible were to happen.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 09:23:52 pm »
The last two Republican presidents didn’t win the popular vote*, so I can’t imagine they’d have a problem with it.

* a’ight, Bush’s first term he didn’t but he scraped the second term popular vote. Clinton apparently did not win the popular vote for either of his terms also, by relatively big margins.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 08:48:28 pm »
Quote from: Folly on October 04, 2023, 08:44:59 pm
Quote from: Lord Shonus on October 04, 2023, 07:31:38 pm
That's the very definition of inertia - we maintain two parties because the existing two parties are already present.

Just to drill down on this a bit more, the two parties are maintained because of Big Money.

There is overwhelming desire amongst the population for a third option, but elections are not determined by what the majority want, they are determined by advertisement and the funding behind those advertisements. And there is not enough profit to be made in promoting and then corrupting a third party, so we just stick with the two already corrupt parties that we have.

If people wanted to vote for a third party, they would. Money being spent can’t prevent them doing that.

People don’t vote third party because it is basically wasting a vote. That’s a consequence of the system, that needs change to come from within, and people in power won’t vote to reduce that power.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 07:49:54 pm »
It’s a description of what happened, brah. You (PPE:EJ) are the only one who is trying to Alastair Campbell it to blame the Democrats.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 07:10:32 pm »
The dismissal is because EJ is uninterested in hearing anything that doesn’t absolutely blame Democrats. His side is “it’s the Democrats fault *fingers in ears* LALALALALALA”

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 06:19:22 pm »
Quote from: Random_Dragon on October 04, 2023, 06:01:53 pm
Quote from: Folly on October 04, 2023, 05:53:28 pm
I think that roughly half the country give a shit? That's the whole reason we're in this mess?
Or even if they don't particularly buy into the rhetoric, half of the country are at least willing to hear it and use it as an excuse to continue supporting their party simply because they lack better options.

Rather, no one in this thread gives a shit about EJ's what-about-isms on behalf of the fascist wannabe, specifically.
It’s not even what-aboutism, it’s willful ignorance because he can’t bear to say a bad thing about Republicans.

It’s obviously the paedophile Satan-worshipping minority party’s fault.

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General Discussion / Re: AmeriPol thread
« on: October 04, 2023, 03:53:54 pm »
The list is secret, so probably not part of the deal. There would be nothing stopping McCarthy showing the Freedom caucus their approved list and then submitting his own one.

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