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Silly man.

I mean he's identified he has an issue with brevity, but he's el presidente so there must be some PR people he can talk to about improving on that.

I have some thoughts, but it's late, so summary:

My last post was made in a hurry prior to leaving for tourism, so that may have contributed to the "jumpiness" component Tiruin felt from it. It appeared she felt it was the way to go from my read through of it (remember I was in a hurry) and I really thought the idea was bad - basically "we should lynch someone with a kill so they can kill scum" as opposed to us lynching scum - hence strong reaction.

Looked over Jack's stuff, though not so much into the other reasons in their case against TDS (at least not the links to various posts) but anyway, it looks like TDS isn't being scumread any more, so he doesn't need to reconcile scum!4mask redirecting his TDS!buddy. I did also see why he was befuddled by TDS confusion over his particular ability, it... was kinda egregious, but also kinda not.

However, I need to reconcile my read on Tiruin, seeing as scum!4mask redirected to her...

As for Tolyk's vote, dude needs to consider things from my perspective. He has rarely used his vote - his voice as Town - and has a QT to which he has invited half the town, within which information is being kept from the town at large, which doesn't exactly foster trust among the non-QT members of the town in the QT members. Thus, I was merely voicing that in the post he was upset about. He's only really getting any trust from at least me 'cause FoU was on his ass all game long.

By the same token, I'm only really trusted 'cause of my friendly neighboir ability so... yeah. I haven't used my vote much either, evidently I am unconsciously not a fan of hammers.

Also I haven't claimed, 'cause I don't like claiming. All the most interesting parts have been revealed anyway.

AGDQ starts on ash day fuckin' wot awtocurekt? Sunday.

I think there's some nonsense about glitches runs in the WTF thread but I can't be bothered to find it and post it there for relevance.

Quote from: scriver on June 28, 2017, 03:23:36 pm

I think I am giving up on life now. There's just nothing for me any more.

Don't do that. More things have a way of showing up.

What if those things are meaningless too? /nihilism ftw

We still on?

Well that rather strongly hints at another scum player still in the game. From the flavour it also appears like the last one.

Also, Tiruin apparently stole my vote, so that's awesome. Understandable, but still totally awesome.

I'm inclined to see Persus and TDS as Town, Tiruin and flabsy as maybe-probably, Jack a little less so 'cause of their vote on TDS toward D2 end of which I was not a fan; watcher and fracker are, imo, very easy to mix up. Not so sure about Tolyk.

That leaves Tea, and I guess me, 'cause I haven't really done anything.

Okay, let's do this from the other side and see how we do, since I'm second-guessing myself on this from thinking who's town.

Flabort was D1 lynch, unlikely to be a bus that early. Has been collecting abilities from other players, one of which was the mafiakill of 4masks, implying he was acted on by the mafia, thus unlikely to be mafia. Could've been a means by which the scum make more copies of 1-shots, though, so perhaps not so solid a read.

Persus was an N1 NK, unlikely to be scum, as was I N2, the only one. Doesn't clear me as I could've been killed with the knowledge I had a revive to give me some towncred.

I would like to point out Tiruin claimed to be the originator of flabort's Balance auto, in which it says they can't use the same ability ability two times in a row, though also claimed to never have acted on him. This means Tiruin was redirected onto flabort or flabort targeted Tiruin, or something to do with the webs that I'm not sure about since I'm unapologetically not paying much attention to things.

Anyway, the body snatching kill thing happened N1, not on N2, and then on N3. Could be a Balance influenced thing, maybe just coincidence.

Tiruin also stole the role of Lengrag, who claimed to have super-duper LYLO breaking powers, which seemed like a quite ridiculous thing to do. They're now dead, after at least Lenglon was put into a QT with Tolyk. This all makes me feel very uneasy about Tiruin.

Tolyk is not scum, 'cause FoU was on their bum all game. I very much dislike their non-use of their vote though.

TDS has been claiming to be a watcher/tracker dude, who was redirected by mafia, and if they did would come up with a better excuse between them than what 4mask did. It seems quite unlikely that mafia would redirect mafia, so it's quite unlikely TDS is scum.

Tea called the scum team as we know it here. This could quite easily be an opportunistic bus seeing as how FoU was revealed scum, and 4mask and TBF dropped off the face of the Earth on D3, while we were all happily thinking this was a 3-scum game. FoU may've knackered it though, since there's no reason for him to have chosen the two game modes he did if there was no scum left. Then again, there's not much to choose from. FoU's flip here.

I'm thinking Tea just has good instincts there. Seemed pretty sold on FoU's lynch D2, I'm not sure Tea (or anyone, really) would bus their scum buddies  on two consecutive days this early. That seems like madness, but I've never played with Tea before. They seem pragmatically analytical though, which leads me to believe mad gambits are uncommon in their play.

Jack is someone I don't like, but I can't explain why (gut feeling, need to read posts) and it's goddamn late so I'm going to bed.

Er... some order, in this lost... I don't know yet. Will read again tomorrow at some point.

If I had a vote, probably be voting Jack or Tea at this point, leaning on Jack, this prior to looking into things though, so perhaps that's the uncertainty talking. My gut apparently wants Tea to be town though, and Jack to be scum, so bugger it I'll be more certain:

Jack

PPE: I'll get to that question tomorrow/later, Tea.

Why not? 4mask did it to FoU when FoU was less than useless.