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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 09, 2017, 12:57:30 pm »
They are basically the NI nationalist party, with pretty solid religious leaning too.

They also apparently favour a soft Brexit so... yeah, Mrs. May has kinda fucked up on a grand scale. I find it hard to believe she's going to survive politically having just presided over a massive collapse in opinion polls and having to team up with something of an extreme party to get things done.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 09, 2017, 12:35:50 pm »
Tories won't be that stupid.

* hector13 remembers the Brexit referendun and recent election

... er... again?

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 09, 2017, 06:55:38 am »
So... what does this mean for Brexit? Are the Tories going to waste more time with coalition talks and a leadership contest before, you know, getting a team together to figure out what their negotiating positions actually are, and actually starting the talks?

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 10:37:06 pm »
The biggest betrayal of all! The grand poobah bites the dust.

Jesus Christ Scotland.

Ah well, bedtime.

Re: shadow ministers: not sure if you're aware, but the opposition party has their own "cabinet" of sorts, mirroring (or shadowing, as that makes more sense) the actual ministers. Not sure if they have access to that ministry's resources or whatever, but they are basically responsible for debating with their counterpart in parliament and keeping up to date with what they're doing.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 10:30:18 pm »
It did occur to me that the Laor politicians don't really like Corbyn so... maybe there's a chance enough of them will rebel and support the Tories, but that's also a risky prospect, seeing as that will very likely be looked upon as massive betrayal by the grass roots members.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 10:24:45 pm »
Nah, the whole Brexit thing is about the U.K. pulling together, and the SNP want to break the U.K. up. Indyref2 will be a guaranteed demand for anything official, probably a seat/some degree of influence at the Brexit table too.

I just can't see it happening, maybe on a case-by-case, but even then it's a long-shot.

ayyy SNP beat the prediction and get a 33rd seat.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 10:15:11 pm »
Basically whoever the minority parties want to work with.

It's a hung parliament I think. The SNP (31 seats so far, thank fuck) are going to be the third largest party, nobody will work with them 'cause Indyref2 is on the table, nobody wants that. I think the Lib Dems are going to demand another Brexit referendum, so it's unlikely anyone will work with them.

Not sure about the rest of the parties, to be fair... the DUP I think most closely align with the Tories, so maybe they get the slimmest of margins, perhaps on a case-by-case basis with them.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 10:03:37 pm »
ffs Scotland. I would've been alright with a swing to Laor, but why vote for the Tories?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:50:40 pm »
It didn't have anything to do with Brexit though. The moderation log pretty much explains it.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:47:00 pm »
I want the SNP to hit 30 so I can go to bed.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:38:09 pm »
Ah, I see.

It bothers me to the point of feeling betrayed that Scotland has elected more Tory MPs this year than they have in the last 20 years combined.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:33:56 pm »
Even so, it looks a bit nasty. Though I suppose for the second indyref it's more important to hold control of the Scottish Parliament. Maybe they could swing it as a coalition deal with Laor?

I can assure you quite comfortably that no British party has taken leave of their senses enough to enter into an official coalition with the SNP.

I am going to go out on a limb, perhaps contradicting my earlier statement that the last election was an outlier, and say this was technically a Brexit election, even if there wasn't much campaigning on it. The SNP are not going to be able to do anything at that particular table, so people are choosing between the Tories and Laor (why Laor, by the way?)

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 09:28:59 pm »
SNP have 25/59 seats so far, 22 seats left to call it.

Still on track for more than half the seats in Scotland guys :P hardly a crushing loss.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 08:31:20 pm »
Two more SNP seats have both flipped Tory. inb4 the Conservative hold is caused by Scotland, of all places.

Don't even fucking suggest such lunacy :P

Right, North East and coastal. Unsurprising they voted Tory. Probably. Oil and fish.

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General Discussion / Re: UK Snap Election Thread - Darth May
« on: June 08, 2017, 08:23:40 pm »
SNP are certainly unlikely to be able to hold everything. I think the last election (in which there were record-breaking swings across the board) was something of an outlier, and this is things returning mostly to normal.

It is terrifying :'(

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