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Lets also place a creature a bit weaker then Katzerin as a test of her might and agility

Cliche snorts.

"Not much of a test if you know she'll win, is it?"

   The Kharis and MMH expand their stock of back-publications. After searching for hoarders in major cities, they manage to send the requested copies to the mages.

Make sure the beings that provided the goods are amply compensated.

   Duneling executive: "How much would you pay for flying bone camels that eat paper and ink and 'print' the news on demand?"

"Not a great deal, I'm afraid. I have my press, and I'm certain of the quality I get from that. I also don't like the idea of my end product being associated with the... let's say "effluvium", of these beings, to be polite.

I may be interested in purchasing one for my own amusement, though. I'm sure that a short advertising run in the publication of your choice will suffice as payment."

I'm sure desecrating the corpses of their fallen will pacify those that believe the West hates Muslims. Seems like a fantastic idea.

Can you guarantee that this won't be used as propaganda to recruit others? 'cause otherwise all that'll happen is their number swell, making the problem that much harder to deal with, needing more resources (human and otherwise) to sort it all out. There's a shit ton to lose, up to and including human life.

Mrs. May wants to toughen Human Rights' laws 'cause terrorists.

I just looked through the TBF material, as his reads (such as they were) had moments where they seemed quite real (the Tea nonread and confusion, in particular, feels like his actual position), and I had been thinking about this while away from the thread.

Not much on him (definitely has missed/skipped questions, aggressively unhelpful), but I did notice something.

Quote from: hector13 on June 04, 2017, 03:30:08 pm

Quote from: TheBiggerFish on June 04, 2017, 02:22:07 pm

I don't, haven't I explained that before?  I got ninja'd by something that basically disproved the main cause of my suspicions, as I have explained, repeatedly.

You haven't explained that before. You explained the tone change, but neglected to mention that it was a read change at some point too.

This is strange from hector.  It's a gotcha moment that focuses on precise wording, but look at the context:

Spoiler: Context (click to show/hide)

Quote from: hector13 on June 02, 2017, 03:57:22 pm

Quote from: TheBiggerFish on June 01, 2017, 09:45:49 pm

@Tiruin: I'm most suspicious of Pozzai.  Refusing to engage and clinging to Tea just kind of make me think 'scum'.

I don't quite understand what you mean by that question.  Yes, I' ve seen people commenting on my actions?  Lenglon specifically, most recently.

Because I have something to actually pursue.

Pozzai:I wouldn't say it's that you are interacting with someone you know, it's that you appeared to be only interacting with the person you know.  That said, you've stopped doing it, so Unvote.

Whoa there, Nelly.

You start this off with "Pozzai is most suspicious" and end it with "not suspicious enough to vote, however".

Can you talk me through this? Do you think Pozzai is interacting with these people actively - seeking out the interaction - or passively - reacting to something?

Quote from: TheBiggerFish on June 02, 2017, 07:48:42 pm

@hector: When I was writing that post, I was ninja'd by Pozzai having strong interactions with Tiruin.  That's why it changed tone in the middle.

Hector requested an explanation of TBF's shift in one post from being most suspicious of Pozzai to unvoting Pozzai.  TBF responded by saying he was ninjaed in the middle of the post by strong Pozzai-Tiruin interactions, leading to the aforementioned tonal shift.  To jump on TBF for later referring to this as a shift in reads is a stretch.  Nitpicky, the idea was implicit in the original response, and TBF is hardly known for precise wording.

hector13: Please give more detail about your thoughts regarding TBF's shift in wording.

I don't know because I'm quite confused regarding the matter and TBF is so unhelpful I want to kick a hole in the wall.

I thought his "tone change" was in reference to:


But now I think the tonal change he was referring to was the "context" spoiler in your post above, but I don't know because TBF is so unhelpful I want to jump in my car and never come back.

The jump on TBF for the read change is probably 'cause I was a bit surprised/befuddled at the apparent-but-as-yet-unconfirmed crossed signals.

It is interesting nonetheless. He switched his view on Pozzai from "dude is totes scum" to "I was voting you to make you do something else, now you've done it my read has completely changed", a change which doesn't make sense to me.

I then asked him multiple times regarding what it was exactly that Pozzai had done to swing his scumdar from "TOTALLY SCUM" to "not scum" (specifically whether or not Pozzai was seeking out the apparently mind-blowing exchange with Tiruin) and he's playing coy, or is just unhelpful AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH.

Having to deal with a buffoon of a foreign leader?

Quote from: hector13 on June 05, 2017, 09:05:24 am

Quote from: TheBiggerFish on June 05, 2017, 08:49:06 am

Wow, that was sudden and angry.

doll: Do you secretly have a multivoting power or something because that was a lot of votes, geez.

Are you just going to ignore my questions for the rest of the game, in favour of pointless comments?

Notice me senpai.

I thought I had answered your questions.

How typically useless of you, thanks.

Are you going to do anything useful?

I mean you got on Pozzai's back regarding not posting reads, why shouldn't we get on your back for missing questions and then going "duhr, ah fot ah ded ansehr de kwestyunz" without pointing to where you answered the question, or, you know, reiterating the answer? Do you think that's the best way to help town? Do you think that's the way to play the game as any alignment, quite frankly?

You know how you feel about playing with roo? That's how people feel about playing with you.

Tolyk

Thanks for reminding me I needed to clarify that part of my argument.

Hector argued in his last wall that it seemed deflective of Pozzai to ask people for reads on people scumreading after a few people had discussed being suspicious of Pozzai. But from what I remember he only cited examples of Pozzai asking about TBF - which both seemed to ignore Pozzai's TBF trajectory throughout the game and seemed to be talking about that questioning behavior as more pervasive than it really was.

I quickly read through the interaction between Pozzai, Lenglon, and TBF and thought I read Pozzai deflecting TBF onto Lenglon at one point, but it was Lenglon onto TBF again. The deflecting in itself isn't something I like to see, but yeah, I was getting tired at that point and forgot to go back and edit the paragraph about how much deflecting was happening.

TBF gets under my skin. I played a year long series of games with him, during which I discovered I really don't like playing with him because he just doesn't fucking learn

Alternatively, drink responsibly.

They probably won't even win any seats, they're raison d'etre has already come to pass, so they can't campaign on it.

Chances are they'll swing to the Tories for the most part.