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Or the calming effect their presence had on the majority black populace.

A viewpoint neutral (y'know, the standard under American jurisprudence and American ideals) says he can hire black panthers for his security. He can hire clowns for his security. He can round up a pack of literal Illinois Nazis for his security. If they're doing nothing but act as security, they're all utterly interchangeable in the eyes of the law. It doesn't and it shouldn't matter how brown or tie dyed their shirts are.

Once "unpopular" individuals and groups are no longer treated equally under our rule of law, we've gone and walked back American society a few decades of hard earned progress. I take poorly those who'd kink back the moral arc of history because they don't have the capability to see past a pair of sunglasses. Looking especially at Portland's jackass of a mayor right now.

That's the thing about ideals and philosophy, man. They're lovely on paper but a bit shit when it comes to reality.

If these groups could be trusted to police a rally impartially and within the law, I'd be alright with it, but I find it stupendously unlikely to be what would happen. I'd feel the same way about militant far-left organisations providing security for Democrat political rallies too.

PPE: I feel the need to express that I'm not saying the Republicans are fascist, just that paramilitaries providing security for political parties is fascist. It's worrying for me that someone representing the Republicans, however minor league, however decentralised the part is or whatever, is saying they're thinking about doing it.

PPE2: Perhaps it would be wise to cool off, Dorisdwarf. There's no need for name calling.

Quote from: Descan on May 30, 2017, 03:01:39 pm

...?

I'm taking the word of a low-tier scrub as actual announcement of the intent of that self-same low-tier scrub. I don't think that this guy is going to get Donald Trump to hire the The League of Super Evil Gun-Fuckers to secure his events, but I can still yell at the guy who actually said that's what he wants?

Also, okay, I was wrong, SMJ is a bit of an idiot or poorly-worded what he meant, that doesn't change the rest of what I said.

(ily smj plz no haet)

If you really consider them the words of a single low-tier idiot and not the words of the actual Republican party, then shouting "fascism" and "oh no, the nazis are coming" over the words of a single low-tier guy is a bit extreme, don't you think?

Why does it matter that he's a low-tier scrub? He is a representative of the Republican party who has said he is willing to look into hiring paramilitaries to provide security for political events. That's something fascists do. Nobody, far as I can tell, has said he Nazis are coming, just saying that hiring paramilitaries is literally fascist, and not something a reasonable person should want to see happening.

Re: regular security not dealing with violent protesters: does this mean both sides need to have an arms race to see who has the bigger, better paramilitaries? If the regular security you've hired doesn't do what they're being paid to do, you perhaps go "I don't think we'll hire them again" and go with someone else. The actual police, for example.

I just needed to let some of my anger out, mkay?

No, it's much healthier to bottle it all up until your mind breaks and you explode at the least opportune moment, alienating your comrades and loved ones forever.

Quote from: Th4DwArfY1 on May 29, 2017, 12:08:40 pm

I think it's less obnoxiously loud and more boisterous and lively, though, for those countries. Though I don't believe I've heard the "loud German" one.

I'm not sure if Northern Ireland is much of a target for German tourists, but they flock to Sweden every summer. They do not leave a good impression.

Tourists in general do that. Go to Edinburgh in August, you'll see.

You'll see.

Everybody shut the fuck up

Do you recall the composition of the armies involved?

webadict strikes me as someone who would choose my theme to apply to the game.