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Messages - hector13

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Nah it's Wednesday.

Not much better though.

Uncertain whether or not to give you the benefit of the doubt here, man. You're oner the four folk I'm willing to vote here, and you're not doing yourself any favours asking someone to clean up a completely irrelevant post prior to excusing yourself for the rest of the day.

9047
Isn't the deadline Tuesday afternoon?

9048
@hector: Because I misunderstood what was going on when you two were vote-shifting, and I don't have any other reason to be suspicious of you two yet.

"yet"?

Also, when you say you'll be busy 'til Tuesday, do you mean you'll be able to get a post up on Tuesday, or after Tuesday? If the latter, I have no problem with an extension so you can contribute.

9049
Wait, why are people voting Lenglon again?

Why is TBF not voting Lenglon, or me?

9050
This is probably a wise ptw.

9051
Er... plus 1.

I'm reasonably sure nobody is new though. They all know what they gotta do.

Anyhow... we know FoU/doll and Johiah were town. Look back at the interactions with those guys D1, and go from there. If anything sticks out, ask about it.

Get to it lads/lassies/things.

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Other Games / Re: How did you last *own*?
« on: May 13, 2017, 04:56:30 pm »
I think you get moderately interesting dialogue if you eavesdrop on the meeting. It might even even be one of the optional mission side quest-type things you can get credit for.

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Right. Cool beans. I had the feeling something wasn't right in what we were communicating I just didn't know what it was.

I haven't dismissed your case. I haven't read it yet (or rather, not properly read it) so it would be foolish to do anything with it without reading it. I asked you to make that task easier (for everyone) but ah well, I'll get to it at some point. It's mostly the corroborating evidence with quotes (the why of your case) I'm interested in. Like I said, you quoted all Hapah's posts, twice hitting the character limit for a single post, that's a lot to go through and it's not immediately obvious which quotes you feel corroborates which parts of your assertions.

It would be to your favor to streamline things if you want the lazy folk like me to jump on the bandwagon, though.

'cept Teebs, but he's easy to manipulate.

Is Teebs gonna answer the questions I asked at day start?

Gentlefish: also still waiting on a response from my D1 stuff directed at you. You were also on two of the four bandwagons that formed yesterday, both of which were the easy targets who weren't contributing. Not looking good for you.

OSG: eh, it's good to see you again and I just want to look as though I'm starting the day with things, and my end-of-day vote (kinda) was mysteriously murdered during the night. Why'd you choose FoU, man, or did you let your scumbudy decide?

I don't like the rest of you, so you can all jump off a bridge or something.

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How is that a misrepresentation? How am I attributing all cases to doll? All the cases from D1 prior to that point had a large aspect of them based around the fact a player was inactive or active-lurking. That is why I said they were essentially the same.

TBF's train: 4mask
G'fish
Hapah
webadict

Boiled down to "why are you dropping questions" or not generating content. webadict'a post says it best.

Johiah's train: TBF
G'fish
Hapah
G'fish again
Teebs again
webadict

Essence of which is "fackin' do sumfin' mate"

Gentlefish: oh hey it's me
doll, twice
roo, presumably piggybacking doll 'cause doll's roo's strongest town read, or they were buddying.

Basically "you're less effective than I think you should be", unless you want to tell me I'm misrepresenting myself?

4mask: roo thinks they're scum, fine.
doll
Teebs
doll's case, the one I think you think I'm misrepresenting. While there are vagaries and details to be gone into, the essence of the case is "you haven't done anything mate, so you must be scum"
doll further explains, saying 4masks inactivity is telling. Still a case based on inactivity though, innit?
roo again voting with doll
me again, voting there to break a tie knowing I might not get on prior to the deadline.

After this point I began to lose interest so yeah.

doll brought up Hapah as being among the active-lurky players at various points, I may have quoted it during this, but I'm using my phone and can't be bothered to check. Thus some links may not go t where I want them to, as I'm not going to check and risk closing this accidentally. Done it before, pain in the arse.

Anyway, these are the cases, what have I misrepresented?

PPE: I played a year long game with FoU, I can read him much better than I can read doll. He does have a nasty habit of pinging my scumdar though.

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that generalization is what I'm refering to. my phrasing of the accusation may have been subpar, the content remains the same. you are misrepresenting the cases of some who isn't here to handle them anymore (doll) by saying the case on TBF and the case on 4mask are "the same". They are not. you know they are not. and respond to the content of my accusation of you please, not just sweep it under the rug over a minor phrasing difference.

I am not misrepresenting the cases, because I didn't mention any of the cases specifically. I meant the cases where broadly the same, in that they were based around a player not contributing because they were either inactive - Johiah and Gentlefish - or active but not producing content - 4mask, TBF, and I think Hapah falls under this one too.

It's funny you bring up doll though, considering they brought up the cases being similar in the first instance:

You are voting 4maskwolf "as per doll", but by the same standards on which I am pursuing 4maskwolf I am also casting shade on Gentlefish and Hapah (and johiah) and yourself.

Which is what I meant regarding the "essentially the same" you seem so caught upon.

So where exactly am I misrepresenting? You have yet to bring that to our attention here. It is a verb, an action word, which means I must've left some evidence somewhere.

Please, for the third time, point to specific evidence of me misrepresenting any of the cases from D1, doll's or otherwise.

Hector13: your vote before I made my case was on 4mask. you unvoted in reaction to my case.

No, I unvoted because there was more time for things, though my interest in the game had waned as a result of all the replace requests, and it was slow to return. Your case had little to do with my unvote, considering I didn't particularly want to vote 4mask in the first place.

doll's play didn't sit right with me, and they are quite difficult to read. 4mask's flip would have allowed me to hopefully get a more solid read on them, which became moot after doll (and 4mask) decided to replace out.

... then when you had the power to control the tiebreak you voted johiah. Johiah was less involved in anything/everything than 4mask, and a lot of the value of the lynch is in seeing how people stand, publically, and how the lynch reflected upon them. We learned far less from the johiah lynch you decided upon than we would have from a 4mask one. So why did you change your mind in those final hours from 4mask to johiah, with no input from either of them in the interum to cause the change?

In the short-term we learned less of things with johiah's lynch, yes. In the longer-term, we got rid of a player who would draw a lot of suspicion had they remained in the game (if Johiah didn't make the replacement request) which would only benefit scum, and we had players replacing the other requesters but not Johiah. I didn't particulary want to drag around the dead weight, in either case.

additionally you have claimed twice now that all 4 cases made yesterday were essentially identical. I saw all four as substantially different and unique from one another. TBF was being voted for his meta, as a push to improve, which you showed you understood here:
...I will say to OSG (oh hey you're back yourself man ;)) that he's voting TBF for what is essentially TBF's meta. He's... not the best player. I'm uncertain if this is intentional, because he does it as town and scum, and is consequently tough to read, but it is fair to say that his play benefits the scum a lot more than it does the town.

In terms of who to lynch, like I said before, it seems the 4 major cases we've had this day have been more or less the same, with a few personal views sprinkled in over why any particular case is more notable than any other.

I think there has been a lot of good stuff generated this day, the main issue being that in order for it all to begin making sense, someone has to flip. The main problem with that is that we've just had a third of the town replace in at the deadline so... that's not all that helpful for all that would happen after the flip to make sense.
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the accusation of johiah was passive-lurking and new player failing to interact effectively, the accusation of 4mask was active-lurking in a veteran player who knows better, and Hapah's case is based on a hypocritical position he took against doll and him voting for a player he himself considers towny.

The details of the various cases were different, yes, but the crux of them I felt were essentially the same. Your case against Hapah came after I said the cases were similar, and I wasn't paying attention to it because you were tunneling so hard there, and my aforementioned interest levels were quite low around that point.

Perhaps you could boil down your case against Hapah with relevant quotes attached? Your initial case is mixed in with your assessment of 4mask's play, and you did a dump of all Hapah's posts from the game that really isn't all that helpful, even with highlighted commentary.

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General Discussion / Re: Terrible Jokes
« on: May 13, 2017, 07:02:22 am »
Well he was obviously expecting the Englishman to pay for it.

9057
General Discussion / Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« on: May 13, 2017, 06:19:25 am »
I second that. I'm an introvert too and require time to myself, but a relationship is a two-way street. Ypu need to let her know this is how you feel, or it won't improve.

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General Discussion / Re: Terrible Jokes
« on: May 13, 2017, 06:05:53 am »
The tightfistedness of my people has reached far and wide.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: May 12, 2017, 10:19:02 pm »
so suggesting that a real man worth his weight in salt would know how to unchamber a round is not an option? :!

One might question the wisdom of provoking someone with a loaded weapon, especially one such as Akura's step-daddy.

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Where did I misstate anyone's position? I said I felt the cases were more or less the same, a generalization. I will accept that this is a simplification of the cases, though I would argue that it was not overly so.

You made a very specific accusation after that, however. Where did I specifically misstate any of the cases that were presented on D1? The quote from your accusation post is, to boil it down, TBF's meta, me re-stating my position regarding the cases/trains against various players D1, then some miscellaneous thoughts regarding the state of the game.

I'm assuming it's somewhere in that second paragraph. Perhaps you could point it out for us? 'cause at this point, sans clarification, it looks like you're hoping I'd continue my lazy play from D1 and not notice the misrepresentation of my play.

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