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Doll: I know Leafsnail can't be scum.
4mask: hector's posts have been striking me as scummy since I read over the thread during N1, for largely similar reasons to the read I gave in #287. After spending much of D2 arguing with me about my case from D1, including FoSing over it towards day end, he's also dropped that line of enquiry altogether in favour of using doll's case instead. There's also the matter that I mentioned that he was misrepresenting what I had said when I posted at the start of D2, and he continued to do so until his last post during D2 when he said he'd actually worded it wrongly and I should apparently have assumed that was what had happened from the beginning.
Maintaining is not actively pushing for lynching someone, which is why I pushed you about your reasoning behind TBF's scumminess.No it isn't. Unless this is another one of those times where I'm supposed to assume that's what you were trying to do but just happened to never bring it up while discussing it?
QuoteYou re-voted TBF with your first post of D2, said "still scum" and moved on. Why were you not trying to encourage people to vote for him, since your read persisted through the night?My case was already laid out on him, the details hadn't changed. Did you want me to go door to door handing out flyers?
What's to respond to?So you were willing to keep that argument going for all of day 2 and were suspicious enough of me for points that I had already brought up in previous posts to FoS me over it, but saw nothing worth carrying over?
The post is, in order of paragraphs: your opinion on third parties + maintaining your case; maintaining your case x 2; conflating experience with ability; maintaining your case and forgetting my position is "it's TBF's meta"; asking my opinion on a related topic.
Since your case was TBF was anti-town, and I said that's his meta, I didn't particularly think a long argument - the essence of which I anticipated as "I'm right, your wrong" on both our parts - would be particularly fruitful.
You're also skipping several parts of the post. The part where I pointed out that you were pushing me about mentioning third parties while ignoring literally everyone else doing so as well, for example.
Quote4mask is probably town. TDS is probably town. Persus isn't scum.I'm interested in your reasoning behind these, since you've never mentioned them before.
Given that the two observant guards can protect each other so they don't provide safe kill targets to scum, and the profusion of observant guards stops scum from easily picking off outed town PR's, is there any reason why I shouldn't out the other observant guard (TDS's human) right now?
I can't actually think of one, but I'll check just in case I'm missing something.
It certainly would simplify the daygame.
Hector:Alrighty then. Got a bit more time to read through things than I expected to get today.There's a fair bit of bull here, so let's get to it.
So, without too much preamble, I think Deus Asmoth is scum.
DA has kept on TBF since D1, but hasn't actively tried to push a case against him since then. Arguably didn't even do it then, TBF's just "anti-town". I would've thought that someone who has been sure enough of someone's scumminess since D1 to vote for them until scum made a bad slip would be pushing for all they're worth to get that person lynched.
As webadict pointed out, it's a bit bizarre how he can vote TBF for two days, and then suddenly start defending him on D3.
[thinkingoutloud]Unless something happened on N2? Which in itself doesn't make sense since his last post on D2 was him defending his "TBF should be lynched" position, so why wouldn't it have happened N1 instead?[/thinkingoutloud]DA has kept on TBF since D1, but hasn't actively tried to push a case against him since then. Arguably didn't even do it then, TBF's just "anti-town". I would've thought that someone who has been sure enough of someone's scumminess since D1 to vote for them until scum made a bad slip would be pushing for all they're worth to get that person lynched.This is interesting for a couple of reasons. Firstly because you FoS'ed me during Day 2 precisely for maintaining a case on TBF and are now claiming that I wasn't pushing enough to get them lynched. Secondly, you seem to have forgotten that you tried to pull me up over calling TBF scummy during day 2. Thirdly because you seem to be ignoring the possibility that what happened during Day 2 may actually have influenced my reads on him.
As webadict pointed out, it's a bit bizarre how he can vote TBF for two days, and then suddenly start defending him on D3.I was voting for TBF during D1 and at the start of D2. I might as well reiterate that something happened during Day 2 that could have caused me to reevaluate my read on him. And if asking someone for the reasoning behind their arguments against someone counts as defending the second person, sure. I'm defending TBF then, I guess.
[thinkingoutloud]Unless something happened on N2? Which in itself doesn't make sense since his last post on D2 was him defending his "TBF should be lynched" position, so why wouldn't it have happened N1 instead?[/thinkingoutloud]Or something could also have happened during D2. And my last post during D2 was defending the reasoning behind the position I took during D1, since you were asking me about it at the time.
Speaking of that post, it's strange that we're nearly 48 hours into the day and you haven't made any response to it yet, since you had FoS'ed me over my opinion on that post during D2. Yet your vote for me today is just parroting the reasoning of Doll and webadict.
hector13: You're tunneling really hard into DA today. Regardless of my personal opinion of him, your case is rather shaky: DA's big post yesterday was defending why they'd been trying to get TBF lynched prior to the reveal that RattyB was scum, and was written in the past tense. I know this because I've reread it a couple of times because is struck me as odd too. What I found was that they didn't state their opinion of TBF at the moment in that post, just why they had voted him previously. While the shift in tone is sudden, the simplest answer is "TBF getting Ratty lynched changed DA's mind". Is there more to your case than just the focus on TBF by DA?
hector13I think we should maybe be a bit more guarded about Tiruin. She did out scum, but it's not a bad choice to bus the weakest scum player, is it?Hum! :O I detect something here that isn't like the others.
Weakest, you say? This feels like something in hindsight that would be inconspicuous but that's something in hindsight not considered in such a wording by townies.
I would like to think I have the strength of play to avoid slips like that as scum 
) so you might get my thoughts piecemeal as and when opportunity arises. Which it might not.
