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Messages - hector13

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They need all those guns to stop the other people with guns from killing them.

Deterrence works, obv.

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I have never seen a problem with unisex bathrooms. I think it's kinda ridiculous people are so fed up with bathrooms. Especially people who are against it. Like. Are you so insecure in yourself that someone of the opposite sex is using the bathroom?

I mean. The imagined scenarios of a bearded guy in drag raping a poor defenseless woman in the bathrooms are never going to happen. I dunno, maybe I'm just weird in thinking that. because, as I said, I have no idea why it's such a big deal.
I wish it were the case but certainly over here there is a really fucking annoying problem with cottaging and cruising
Surely that's still be a problem regardless of who's allowed to use the bathroom?

I have absolutely no problem with a single-person bathroom being unisex, but I do have a problem with multi-person bathrooms being unisex.
This happened at a movie theatre I went to where the ladies restroom had been flooded, so everybody went in the mens, and there ended up being two lines with men and women alternating who goes in. Nobody wanted to do at the same time.

If the only problem is "I don't want a member of the opposite sex hear me tinkle" then people need to get over themselves.

If people are worried about being raped, how likely do you think the symbol on the door being a woman would stop someone wanting to do that anyway?

Staff the bathroom if people are worried. It's not rocket surgery.

9633
Neither Israel or Palestine would accept it anyway. Don't take away muh holy-land-home, bro.

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I disagree. If you let someone into a complex course with terrible SATs just because they're really, really from a poor background, then the same problems that held them back on the SATs are going to hold them back in your course.

What you should be doing is funding more bridging courses for people from a poor background. Pretending they did better on tests than they actually did helps nobody.

Fund new courses that are aimed at the level of educational achievement that they actually got, don't put poor-performers into a high-performer course for "fairness", because you're actually fucking them over in the long run.

I didn't mean to imply ignoring test scores and such as it would be silly to accept someone into a course they can't necessarily do.

Anyhow, SATs are totes racist, regardless :P

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Jay Rosner, executive director of the Princeton Review Foundation, once analyzed rarely disclosed “item-level” data from old SATs and found a troubling pattern. The College Board drops questions if they tend to be answered incorrectly by students who otherwise do well on the test—or if they tend to be answered correctly by students who otherwise do poorly. That seems like an admirable attempt to control quality, but it reinforces the status quo: Questions that white and Asian males don’t do particularly well on are systematically shorn from the tests.

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So, if you think about it, just cramming any extra black people you can into a classroom regardless of whether they have the direct prerequisites to succeed at your class doesn't necessarily help racism, but looks good for a colleges "diversity" score, like they're doing something. AA needs to be an incremental set of help over an entire lifetime. Strongly skewing admission criteria is a band-aid that can backfire, big time.

Depends how you go about it.

While eliminating AA will net you fewer minorities, controlling for things like socioeconomic circumstances and other things like that minorities score low for relative to white folk will at least allow you to maintain the standard of ability overall.

It obviously won't be as good for diversity scores as straight up installing minorities, but at least it means you are less likely to encounter the problems you posit in your example.

Improving the opportunities of minorities isn't going to be a quick fix, but the better outcomes they can work toward now means they're going to (hopefully) pass on the benefits of those outcomes to the next generation.

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It is like a minimum wage for races, when you think about it.

So what happens when there is a minimum wage? Everyone uses it.

I wouldn't assign that particular equivalency, since the minimum wage doesn't discriminate - 'cept for full-time versus part-time, maybe - and you need to have a job before you can get it.

I think it's more you're trying to draw a picture, but someone says you need to use so much of a particular colour or technique before it's acceptable, else you'll get penalised.

It's not really a long-term solution, and it's probably the easiest and least expensive thing for a governing body to enact, is AA. It might be better to provide training or something of the like for minorities, at least for employment opportunities.

The issue then being that if that training isn't open to white folk it's still racist.

Is it possible for racism to be good..? Like, for everyone?

Edit for autocorrect.

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Well considering the entire point of AA is treating people differently based on race...

I'm not much of a proponent of it, at least of the "you must have x number of ethnic minorities in your group" variety.

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General Discussion / Re: [GOOD JOKE?] Find pants elevator! (Happy thread)
« on: January 05, 2017, 09:27:42 pm »
I thought I had missed AGDQ, but it starts on Sunday.

9639
Check out position A, the satellite could be for communications, and the table looks like a good place for someone to write down intel.

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Other Games / Re: How did you last *own*?
« on: January 05, 2017, 07:59:10 pm »
Survived getting the Black Death!

Then proceeded to get a kingdom title after 2 centuries of eating away at my liege's vassals, and waiting for them to stop being at war after I was independent to usurp that kingdom title.

Trying to get the Zoroastrian faith up and running. Probably won't happen, given that every bastard round me is Sunni so it takes ages to get claims and I'm about a century away from getting blasted by Mongols... we'll see how it goes.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

9641
Racism isn't just an active thing, cha know. It can happen in more passive and complex ways.

Non-whites don't have much representation in politics, they don't achieve as highly as white folks in education, don't have as much access to quality healthcare, to name but three. These are also down to institutional racism.
This is bullshit, you're not judging people based off of their merits as a person you're judging them as a race.

Don't rightly know if that was directed at me, 'cause I don't think I was doing what you say the "you" is doing, but your example was much better than mine :P

9642
Well, those are the only ones I can think of.There may be some arcane laws in some counties or soething.

Racism isn't just an active thing, cha know. It can happen in more passive and complex ways.

Non-whites don't have much representation in politics, they don't achieve as highly as white folks in education, don't have as much access to quality healthcare, to name but three. These are also down to institutional racism.

9643
The only examples of institutional racial prejudice are pro-color and pro-native american.

Affirmative Action, etc.

The lack of a /s is worrisome.

This is awful, I agree. The question is whether it is racism. And that depends on the definition. This is just a question of "this word can be used in subtly different ways," that's all. Prejudice against white people on the part of PoC, and violence based on that prejudice - nobody's denying that this exists, that it is wrong, that the criminals should be punished. It's just that some people don't define that as "racism".

If that is the case, those people are foolish. How is targeting someone specifically for their race not racism?

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: January 05, 2017, 09:45:32 am »
Where are you getting that Sony got hacked? A (very) quick search for "Sony hack" gets hits from 2014, and again in 2015 recapping 2014.

9645
Well that's the thing about any group: there's always going to be an outgroup, that isn't the same as you.

The ideal of being "American" is too ingrained in politics to be changed or removed that easily anyway. It's something that's very easy to appeal to for politicians, so they're not going to give that up (Make America Great Again!) and it's the identity of pretty much the entire nation, to varying degrees.

Some are also willing to go to fairly extreme ends to defend what they think it means (like the Bundies) so any attempt to change it also has to take that into account.

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