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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 12, 2016, 11:18:51 am »
So? Do you think content is going to generate itself?
Yes. I was waiting until I could contribute.

If you'll permit me some incredulity: What the actual fuck?

You say that with 10 hours left in the day, at bedtime apparently since you don't respond to TBF's sans-reason-vote on you with righteous indignation. Assuming you are a normal human and require 8 hours of sleep, that leaves 2 hours of activity.

What can you offer in 2 hours of waking-up-FoU that you can't offer in the previous 94?
Second of all. Activity?

Precisely. I read this as "wtf am I going to say to get me out of this uh... activity?"

You've contributed nothing to this round.

You appear to have failed to notice when I said I was busy. Skimming posts tends to make you miss bits.

I wanted to post to get you guys commenting on things since you had posted less than a page of stuff in the 30-odd hours between the day starting and when I posted. It's a pain in the ass that it seems I have to be the one getting you guys posting, especially when I don't have the time to do it myself.

The rest of your reasoning is OMGUS, you're voting me because I'm pressuring you.
I'm going to go ahead and note that I voted you first. Then you voted me. And I was pressuring you.
So I'm calling that an OMGUS on your part.

It's possible you could have missed it because you were busy. So I'll let that go.

You did vote me first, in response to me pressuring you first. That's how the OMGUS works, it isn't as simple as "I voted you first!". You hadn't been doing anything until I pressured you.

[1] Is that limited to my scum game? No, because how else does one generate content? Do what you do and stay quiet because they have "nothing to offer"? 3 of you did that yesterday, and you wonder why there was a no lynch. Best case scenario for town in that instance is Starver and I vote for each other. What would that tell you?

[2] The first substantial thing you've done this game is OMGUS. If you've been following the game enough to notice I've been jumping at every little thing, how come you didn't vote me earlier?

[1]: It's not limited to your scum game, but jumping at irrelevant things is.

[2]: Because, hector, I need more reasons to vote you than just one tell.

Implying there are relevant things I should be focusing on. Please quote them for me. Had you posted more often, you'd have more than the 10 minutes you have left to do that.

You actually don't need any reason to vote for someone. Your vote is your voice, and for the vast majority of a day it's there for you to get other people to generate content.

You need a reason to build a case. Those reasons don't just fall into your lap, you need to go out and find them.

No, I guess day game isn't getting me out of this. And better have a chance to get one person to unvote me and one person keep their vote on me than both stay on me definitely.

I present: my real claim.

I am the grey ? Fish mentioned. Neutral role. My first wincon was not being able to win.

I had a 1-shot night ability(which I suspect was the "falter" ability mentioned in the first mod post of the day). I used it on Fish. Apparently, that stole his win condition and copied his night ability to me. So I now win with the town, and have Fish's ability.

I didn't want to claim on day one because that would get me policy lynched.
I didn't want to claim earlier today because that would get Fish at me.

Also breadcrumbing:

So. That's a thing. Or you're lying. Regardless, it's rather interesting. Right ho, let's get on with the game. You all have opinions on the no lynch yesterday?

Because I think that was pointless. We're not going to make progress finding the scum if we don't lynch. So how about we lynch someone today.

An apology to Fish for stealing his win condition.

I personally think breadcrumbing is the most pointless thing you can do. All it tells us is you foresee the need to claim later, as I told Starver.

Anyhow, too little too late. I imply I think the potential killer is the Evil role, so you claim the role-changer.

At this point, my choice is between you and EP. You're the only one that's in any way going to get lynched. If you're lying, we (probably) win. If you're truthing, TBF gets his role back. Town loses nothing either way.

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Well, Trump isn't even president yet, and he's already pissed off China and basically said he doesn't trust his intelligence services.

Bad things come in threes, as the saying goes. What do you think he's going to fuck up in the 5 weeks or so before his inauguration?

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 12, 2016, 09:56:00 am »
Well great. I think the day ends in like 90 minutes.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 12, 2016, 09:46:32 am »
FoU

[1] I'm not comfortable with FoU, given that he had the gall to complain there was a no lynch on D1, when that has been fairly standard for this marathon...
[1]: So? Still a bad thing. Unless you'd like to demonstrate otherwise? I mean, look at round 1.

Look at Rounds 1-19. Town has won most of the games. That wasn't the salient part. You complaining when you did nothing is the salient part.

How has it taken you 20 rounds, plus 2 bonus rounds, to complain about it?

[2] ... and the fact he hadn't posted for pretty much the last half of D1.

[2]: I didn't have anything to offer.

So? Do you think content is going to generate itself?

[3] He then claims Town Weakness and that he has an unknown auto, but comments no further on what he did during the night.
[3]: Can it not be reasonably implied that I do not have a night action from my claim? Regardless, I didn't act this night, because I don't have a night action.

Convenient that, isn't it? I acted on EP last night, apparently confirmed by TBF, EP claims to have acted on TBF, whose role changed last night, apparently confirming that.

The only one left out is you, and we have a dead player on our hands. Of the two, a potential role-changer versus a potential kill, which one do you think is the Evil role?

[4] Boy's active lurking.
[4]: Eh. More like normal lurking, if you ask me. My apologies anyway. I think I'll be a bit more active this day, now that we have more to discuss.

If you'll permit me some incredulity: What the actual fuck?

You say that with 10 hours left in the day, at bedtime apparently since you don't respond to TBF's sans-reason-vote on you with righteous indignation. Assuming you are a normal human and require 8 hours of sleep, that leaves 2 hours of activity.

What can you offer in 2 hours of waking-up-FoU that you can't offer in the previous 94?

Does this sound like a Town wincon? Especially after FoU has claimed the Weakness position, I personally don't think so.
Le wha? I find it hard to believe you didn't notice the "replaced" word, hector. (no, that's not my only reason for voting you, it's also partly based on your reasoning displayed in the first part of this post)

You appear to have failed to notice when I said I was busy. Skimming posts tends to make you miss bits.

I wanted to post to get you guys commenting on things since you had posted less than a page of stuff in the 30-odd hours between the day starting and when I posted. It's a pain in the ass that it seems I have to be the one getting you guys posting, especially when I don't have the time to do it myself.

The rest of your reasoning is OMGUS, you're voting me because I'm pressuring you.

And because you're displaying the Hectortell, in my opinion. You snap and jump at everything when you're scum, trying to find something that'll stick. As demonstrated above, you're doing that this round.

Is that limited to my scum game? No, because how else does one generate content? Do what you do and stay quiet because they have "nothing to offer"? 3 of you did that yesterday, and you wonder why there was a no lynch. Best case scenario for town in that instance is Starver and I vote for each other. What would that tell you?

Nothing. The game gives back what you put in.

The first substantial thing you've done this game is OMGUS. If you've been following the game enough to notice I've been jumping at every little thing, how come you didn't vote me earlier?



TBF

More to come tomorrow.

It's tomorrow, please do hurry.

Also hoping for something from EP. It hasn't escaped my notice you haven't posted for ages, either.

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Asylum seekers have no obligations under the Dublin Agreement. All it says is the member state that the asylum seeker first state it can be proven they earliest entered is responsible for processing the asylum claim.

This does, however, place an entirely unfair burden on EU border states.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 11, 2016, 07:59:23 pm »
Will comment on D1 Starver stuff later.

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 11, 2016, 07:59:01 pm »
Busy weekend, sorry gais.

I got a result of you when acting on hector and my ability was replaced with a Wincon of "You can't win."

I revert when grey ? ? ? is killed apparently.

Does this sound like a Town wincon? Especially after FoU has claimed the Weakness position, I personally don't think so.

It's not a single digit. Really needs more info (can't happen today if Hector doesn't post anything, maybe not even tben)..

Summary...

EP fails to act (and/or acts but fails) on TBF,
TBF acts on Hector, sees EP.
I get numbers, it seems.  (But not N0)
Fallacy unstated.
Hector yet to call (uncharitably, could have acted on EP to cause a failure, charitably could have empowered me to get those digits, much middle-ground.)

I acted on EP. All I got was an action complete confirmation. I'm inclined to say I didn't have anything to do with his failed result, considering he had the same result on N0, when I didn't act.



I'm not comfortable with FoU, given that he had the gall to complain there was a no lynch on D1, when that has been fairly standard for this marathon, and the fact he hadn't posted for pretty much the last half of D1. He then claims Town Weakness and that he has an unknown auto, but comments no further on what he did during the night.

Boy's active lurking.

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General Discussion / Re: [GOOD JOKE?] Find pants elevator! (Happy thread)
« on: December 11, 2016, 05:21:30 pm »
I must be retarded or something LOGARITHMS AND TRIGONOMETRY ARE BULLSHIT

Word Number, brother.

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[Katzerie, the Token God]

"I will not pay those who kill and steal. You should be repaying me."
"This one was not aware you were involved in this one's imprisonment, nor that you are a part of these negotiations."
"Did you not deserve to be imprisoned?

Also, who is this Nobody that now has 45E? Does anyone have anything they'd like to share with the rest of us?
"

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 11, 2016, 03:28:53 pm »
He has said a few times he feels like folks in the emotion threads don't take him seriously, or something to that effect. I'd bugger off if that were the case too.

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General Discussion / Re: [GOOD JOKE?] Find pants elevator! (Happy thread)
« on: December 11, 2016, 03:12:20 pm »
insulated waterproof boots are nice

Put the trash out in my sneakers.

Not the best idea in 4 inches of snow.

Wearing shorts and a t-shirt didn't bother me though.

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General Discussion / Re: Things that made you go "WTF?" today o_O
« on: December 11, 2016, 02:37:29 pm »
Are we referring to Putnam?

9808
Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 09, 2016, 05:29:55 pm »
This was a fantastically useful first day. Thanks for the help gais <3

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Mafia / Re: Mafia Marathon (Semi-bastard) Round 20
« on: December 09, 2016, 02:28:49 pm »
Why are you so worried about how you come across to the rest of the town?
("I'm answering your questions.")

Does anyone else see how this is a reasonable response to my question? You guys are being very quiet, and I find that very unreasonable given y'all have claimed you have no idea wtf your night actions do.

Does anyone have anything to say at all, or is it just me?

This doesn't make sense as a response to the question I asked.
It does to me. If you want to get meta, look at the last round, not that that should have any bearing.

Why suggest something then immediately say that something will be pointless? I don't want meta, I want(ed) a direct answer to my question.

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Like... town shouldn't be worrying about how they come across so much.
Right now, I'm not worried. Later on it might be critical.

Then why did you imply you were worried you'd come across as "opportunistically flash-claiming", so you tried to set-up a breadcrumb trail to another "claim" even earlier than now?

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Thus, your unwillingness to stand out as a motivation for not doing anything useful does not sit well with me, particularly when you say shortly thereafter you're breadcrumbing. That kinda defeats the purpose.
I have less idea how useful I am than Fish claims for themself. I think I'm not a not-useful character, though. So, as and when I'm made aware, I have a call-back. I also announced the breadcrumb partly so that the I could not be accused of speculatively false-breadcrumbing in secret and only revealing if it became something still claimable.  I can take the doubt, in the meantime. And the probability that the Big Bad has decoded my breadcrumbs and playing dumb to their own advantage.

Here as well.

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This bit is also silly, for aforementioned reasons of "suspicions don't do much good unvoiced, man."
It wasn't intended to be, but this discussion turns out to be a bit of a bellwether. Well over 24 hours with only me saying little but saying that I'm saying little and you saying little about yourself but demanding more from me. As a third party to this, I'd most likely be betting that one of us is being evasive for the wrong reasons. (Or else wondering which of us two to frame for their own misdeeds, without being too obvious.)

What am I supposed to say about myself? You refuse to ask questions. I have told you I want you to voice your suspicions, which you did, but you've done nothing to confirm or reject them. I find it hard to believe you're waiting to confirm or reject them during the night, since you've claimed ignorance of what it is you do.

I am pretty much standing still and asking you to hit me with your best shot at this point. Why not take the opportunity?

As me, I know where I stand, which means I have you as the most odd guest to the party, but the chances of, say, Fish (or Round Mechanics!) being the actual bad cog in the works are enough to wait for another voice from rhe wilderness to chip in. Until then, I find no need to guild the lilly. Let it stand, as is, come hell or high-water.

As part of everyone else, I don't know where you stand, beyond having suspicions about me and my motivations, which I'm pretty sure everyone else has regarding everyone else too.

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Why did you not respond to the rest of my post?
Already answered enough. More than. This needs to stop being a repetitious dialogue.

Clearly. You are a shining example of openness and cooperation. /s

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Forum Games and Roleplaying / Re: Ye Gods 5 IC [17/40]: Tick 10: Reuse.
« on: December 09, 2016, 02:01:59 pm »
Encourage the Kharis to write pieces promoting contact between the races.

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