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If possible, cause a cave in and the dust will knock him out, bonus point if you can knock him out and get him in a cage trap, then take hes legendary weapons and release him again.

Incidentally, that doesn't work anymore.  Dust now does damage to your body parts; it doesn't magically knock you out.

I found that out the hard way.

Right now, the legends screen on my many things is extremely hard to read.  For instance, open up the history of any longstanding site, and it will be filled with spam about "so-and-so settled there, so-and-so changed jobs, so-and-so made a masterwork item" etc.

So I suggest dividing it by year and then organizing it into subsections by type.  For instance, when you click on a fort, it gives a list of every year the fort has existed, eg. "1051 - twenty events"

Choosing a year opens a list of summaries for different types of events, eg.
"In the year 1051:
Five new migrants settled,
Twenty new masterwork items were created,
There were twelve deaths."

Selecting an item from the list would produce a detailed listing of those events.

Additionally, it should be possible to view your fort's own legends screen from in a game, and your adventurer's own legends screen while playing in adv. mode.  In adv mode, it could perhaps require a particular 'historian / loremaster'-type noble, who could perhaps allow you to view legends screens for visitors or for known civs / important leaders of known civs (and other such things) as well.

They have more advanced metals.  At least, they usually should.

They're not using bronze because they don't have iron, they're using bronze because bronze is better than DF-era iron, and, at the moment, the game isn't paying attention to the fact that it's harder to make by virtue of requiring somewhat less common minerals.

What we consider 'strong' iron is closer to (and is represented in the game by) steel.

Uberstats are a very important part of heroic fantasy, though.  DF isn't just about realism; it's about heroic fantasy, too.

I mean, if you made it purely about realism, you'd have to take out the dragons...  or, without heroic attributes, you'd have to take out the people capable of slaying dragons...

I dunno, it seems sort of buggy to me.  Or at least bad game logic.

I mean, how are they doing it?  Picture it in your head -- the down staircase definitely doesn't reach the floor of the tile below (they can't walk to there.)  So how do they manage to produce a staircase down into that floor, without building stairs in the intervening space?

Magma is supposed to be nearly bottom-most layer, so in order to make use of magma features on typical embark, you will have to pierce potential aquifier and dig all the way down throught caverns. That pretty much requires you to have competent military to deal with new undergound critters, forgotten beasts and possibly clowns.

It's not going to be nearly that hard to get past the caverns.  Dig down; when you hit a cave, the area around the breach point will be exposed -- immediately rewall it and branch off from your downward staircase a bit above where you hit the caverns to go around them (or down through a large pillar of stone, or whatever.)

Also, normally when you breach a cavern, you'll breach the ceiling, so at least non-flying cave nasties will not be able to reach you.  Of course, there's various reasons why you might want to explore the cave's floor...  in that case you do have to take risks.  But simply evading the caves to get to the magma is not so difficult as all that.

I'd watch out, it looks like toady hates floating point numbers. We might end up counting in nanoDwarfbucks if we get your wish for sub 1db costs.

You don't need a float for decimalized currency; in fact, it's a very wasteful way to do it.  Currency is fixed-point, not floating point, so you just have to add a period when you display them (or trim off the last two digits, when you don't care about them.)

However, the entire concept of things having a fixed and concrete value is questionable.

I should *headdesk* now. Back to topic. I guess milking goes by the same framework as any extracting job now so i want to ask toady: Can we actually extract materials from living animals (which arent vermin) with this release?

No, only vermin (and, more specifically, only purring maggots and moghoppers, for milking and extracting from fish respectively -- well, you could mod in other milkable vermin, but you get the idea.)