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If you put a dwarf in exile, it should also affect dwarves close to him/her. Like if you exile a dwarf with a family, the direct family would leave too (not cousin, aunt, uncle, etc.).

This has nothing to do with my suggestion.

> Biofuel rates
If I could make 1 biofuel out of 1 oil, I would just spam synth-reeds. Note that it takes 5 synth-reeds to make 25 alcohol, that makes 1 biofuel, but 1 synth-reed to make 1 oil. I would need to play to get a "feel" for this, but reducing the oil requirement per biofuel to 4 or 3 could be a good idea, because that way going through the screw press would be more efficient. Otherwise it is better to just make thousands of alcohol from all kinds of plants and biofuel from there. NVM, this was accounted for in Neowulf's proposal.
I disagree with so much tallow to make 1 biofuel. It takes a while to process it and the most I ever had was less than 200. All the alcohol the stable produces is fairly weak and it should take less tallow than alcohol to make biofuel. How much tallow should I need to make a flamer canister anyway? 50+ is too much. 10 is too easy. 20-30?
I would also prefer a better conversion rate between biofuel and flamer fuel canisters. Maybe not 1:1, but almost. Not that it matters that much, people will either use flamers and produce their own canisters or skip them and convert flamer fuel to coke.

> > A set of gems/reactions to train carpentry, masonry, stonedetailing, and the crafting skills would be nice.
Well, if not training holo-gems than some other kind of training reactions for crafting would be nice. Such as "waste 1 material, produce 7 evaporating boulders, learn skill 4 times as fast".

> Scrap produces every normal metal except nickel, bismuth, silver, and gold. Silver and gold are easily added with a tiny chance, just assume some scrap includes old jewellery. And nickel/bismuth could be added with zinc's chance, just for completeness.
I disagree with this. Firstly because those would only ever be trace elements. Secondly because you can make alloys out of ores at the smelter / magma smelter. With an "everything" ore, you could spam things like rose gold, which is ridiculous. Lycaeon likes patching up exploits like this.

How about moving all ammo-related reactions to the Reloading Bench? It would un-clutter the prismatic forge a bit... ah, right, you need fuel or other source of power to make bullets. Not a problem with Gunsmith's Forge, but Prismatic smelter doesn't need fuel.

Since skill gain depends on the number of items produced, copper / aluminium goblets is a good way to train up a munitions pony.

Philosopher's garden trains concentration and observer among other things, which seem to influence the number of XP gained from military demonstrations. I think observer also helps spot ambushes.

I know it isn't even remotely possible, but it would be great if coiled wiring could be built into floors and walls and transmit electric power and data. You could build things like a maneframe with 40 terminals.

EDIT: It would help if either the VR simulator or the Armoury trained Dodge.
Maybe we should get 2 upgrade slots: 1 for Power / Scorpion Armour, one for minigun / flamer battle saddle? But that would screw up the assassin class.

EDIT2: I updated the military training section of my guide.

Why did you compress the time to say, this happens within days? I don't think it would hurt the story at all to have weeks between important things happening?

> Heh Mak, neither of the two castes you mentioned are redundant.
Well, OK, but I still don't want classes I have no use for whatsoever. Your stables are basically big farms, but I don't need more than 3 farmers. Well, maybe 5 so long as they are also haulers. My "smiling flowers" go into the military anyway - I have no other use for them and maybe they can cheer up the rest of their squads, or something. 
In any case, with so many castes, you'll always have overabundance of some and lack of others and giving us redundancy on top of that is itself redundant.

> > Well, they are missing cutie mark descriptions, which are in "descriptor_color_cutiemark.txt". That way you could search either by description or by cutie marks.
> Sorry, but no.
It is a good idea, but I can live without it.

> In other news, I'm removing lasers from the protectoponies, as I have not figured out how to stop ponies from trying to stockpile errant laser bolts.
So they're even weaker now? A good salvo from protectorponies and turrets could keep some animals at bay at least. And there weren't even that many laser bolts, at least in my experience. Do the protectorponies at least get a pistol, like the turrets? They should have some kind of ranged weapon.

EDIT: Oh, wow. An update. It looks good, but most of this stuff comes into play mid to late game, so I'd have to play for a few days to test it. I might have a look over the RAWs, but I have some other things to do first.

maklak: no need to get testy. im just trying sh** out (u have a bad habit of commenting negative things even when i posted/realized it didnt work). i have a learning process here.  i havent tried ur latest formula yet.

Well, I suppose maybe I owe you an apology.

For both:
a) Skill level
b) Skill rate, factoring in skill level
You want for the current system with weighted arithmetic means:
1) a value, mapped to <0, 1> and bigger means better.
2) a weight, chosen arbitrarily, but adjustable by the user.

For skill level, I think Splinterz already mentioned having a value that works. I submitted a sensible proposal, where you sort by interpolated skill levels, which may even be how it currently works.

For Skill Rates, I submitted the generalised simulation approach and a method for using 1/x for unfavourable rates.

Weights for aggregating those values into your goal function are something entirely different.

Maybe I should just write a program myself, that takes a file with lines "xp rate\n" as input and prints values for different forumlas in the output.  I'm pretty sure I gad a working gcc on this computer. Maybe even one of them fancy text editors that can highlight syntax.

EDIT: Here is my program with these formulas. sim1 (without slopes) seems to be the most sensible: http://pastebin.com/XAypc3Ka
It can accept a file with "xp rate\n" in each line and produce a CSV that you can use for Libre Office Calc or whatever. I didn't bother with all the fancy things, like options and reading / writing to / from a file, so you have to use it like this: "$ rates <input.txt >output.txt". It ends when a line contains anything but two integers. I didn't even add any safeguards against negative numbers. It is easily extensible with other formulas. Just add more functions.

> I still wonder what's up with those unidentified "seeds" I keep getting.
There was a similar problem in FoE mod. A reaction to process synh-reeds into oil produced generic, unusable seeds. The fix was to change to:
[PRODUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:PLANT_MAT:SYNTH_WEED:SEED]
[PRODUCT:100:1:SEEDS:NONE:PLANT_MAT:SYNTH_REED:SEED]
So just look at kitchen, farmer's workshop, screw press and whatever else reactions you have for processing raw food and check if they give the right kinds of seeds.

Littlepip's stable had an apple orchard (which is not the most efficient way of producing food), there was also something about a pegasai stable big enough to have weather in it. Stable-tec's excavation was very fast and I don't see the problem with a stable having a lake.

I've glanced over the manual for Neuroshima "rat" class (basically a bum who searches through other people's trash) and one of the methods of staying alive was to entertain others and be very good at it. Besides, one's job is supposed to be related to her special talent, but doesn't always have to be the case. In the wasteland or even in a stable with limited number of jobs needed and available, one sometimes has to pick bits and pieces from other skills or just do something entirely different and keep entertaining others as a hobby. Besides, Velvet Remedy was partly an entertainer. That said, I tend to have lots of classes I have little use for, like "smiling flowers" or "embodies the earth pony nature".

I don't have a problem with Nurse Redhearts needing more stuff to make. You'll need nor more than three of them anyway and the rest of resources can be spent on something else.

Replica, it would help to put things into perspective, if you added the relative frequencies for castes.