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I agree with the single-world sentiment. Community games take forever anyway; it's the updates that make them fun to read and play!

I have no objection to waiting 210 days for my turn, this world is going to be awesome as long as there is continued interest and nobody finds a way to actually doom the whole world we could potentially have something for the bay12 history books.


The more adventuring logs and fortress overseer stories the better IMO, they help flesh out the world and provide intrigue and motivation for adventuring

All fully acknowledged! Now how does more erosion = more sheer cliffs work? Counter intuitive, especially for someone working on their geology degree. Typo, or is DF just wierd like that?

i think that in DF erosion cycles cause rivers to dig down into the terrain, therefore no erosion cycles cause flat land. I am not entirely sure and people can feel free to correct me. Im studying medicine so i dont know how erosion works in the real world i just assumed hills happen when two mountains love each other very much....

also mineral scarcity poll: 3

If the range is 500-1000, I'm going for 1000. Personally, I'd have the settings down to default 2500-5000

1000 seems reasonable, combined with high volcanism variance it should give enough variety of embarks to make for some fun and varied forts to adventure in. But i take your point about mineral overload, gold is no fun if you have enough to construct an entire castle just mining out your dwarves living quaters

on another note I vote for cavern layers = 2, less distance to HFS and magma sea without compromising on things like cavern flora/fauna and uprights etc. Personally i always sigh inwardly when i find the magma sea is over 140 Z levels beneath the surface. What do others think?

If we were able to connect the forts with cavern roads.... Would require a lot of communication and planning.

...thats awesome, community megaproject?

would need a handful of overseers who really knew their stuff to coordinate the average joes like myself. If you were going to use cavern roads wouldnt that involve embarking on every tile between the forts in question to make sure the path is intact? I guess you could embark on a square which is 9x1 or something so that you are only embarking over where the road will be. Also i have heard that adventuring in caverns is usuall an exercise in frustration and failure trying to get back out

I had an above-ground fort once, waves of migrants were left starving at the gates with inevitable results.. A murderous ghost appeared and loitered around the dormitory for a while, then proceeded to tear my beekeepers leg off (it was quite impressive, blood EVERYWHERE).

Also murderous ghosts can occasionally scare dwarves to death, which results in a less interesting insta-kill.

When being seiged by goblins I noticed a curious behaviour, when a goblin from a squad gets trapped in a cage trap and there are no dwarves or pets around to torment, the squad will stop dead in its tracks and cluster around their trapped squadmate. Through dwarven ingenuity we can exploit this behaviour by placing a single cage trap surrounded by 8 weapon traps like so:

+++++++
++^^^++
++^c^++
++^^^++
+++++++

+ = floor
^ = weapon trap
c = cage trap

As the trapped goblin sits in its cage its friends are eviscerated around him. Placing the cage trap centre on a tile that goblins are most likely to pathfind through enhances the effectiveness like so:

W+++W+++W
W+++W+++W
W++^W^++W
W++^c^++W
W++^^^++W
WWWWWWW

W = wall

Problems with this design include weapon traps becoming jammed (esp. serrated disks, you need the traps to continue reloading and firing as the enemies mill around the central cage trap), and the trap can only be used against one squad before the cage trap must be reloaded. Even after a seige expires the trapped squad will remain, so if all your traps become jammed and a squad of elite crossgobbos are sitting in your entrance hall this could cause problems.

Has anyone else observed this behaviour? And if so is it specific to goblins or consistent throughout other civilizations? (I noted that trolls brought by goblins behaved similarly though im not sure if trolls commanded by goblins would have goblin squad behaviour) It would be good to have confirmation from someone else that the design works. Suggestions for a name for this trap design are also welcome  (as are other personal trap designs)

Have you tried deconstructing the bed under the dwarf who is wounded? If he has to move and get into a new bed in the hospital it may prompt your new CMD to diagnose him