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Yeah, I plan to test that out, I just haven't gotten to it yet.

One interesting consequence of this is that if a room is going to have a lot of openings, it may be best to designate the room from the least valuable item of furniture in it.

So I just recently discovered something interesting about how room value is calculated -- specifically, how openings in the walls affect it. Here's the math. Please note that I'm only confident about this for rectangular rooms -- I haven't tested it out for other shapes.

Let v_r be the value of the room itself, including the the value of the building used to designate it, and the value of the walls and floor (including material modifiers, smoothing/engraving, etc. -- see Kipi's excellent work for how to calculate this).

Let v_f be the value of any additional furniture installed in the room (not including the item used to designate the room in the first place).

Let n_b be the number of border tiles the room has.

Let n_e be the number of those border tiles that are "empty" -- i.e., not occupied by a wall or door. (Note: I'm not totally confident that doors count as non-empty, but I think they do).

Let V be the total computed value of the room.

Then:

V = (8 - ceiling(4*n_e/n_b))*v_r/8 + v_f

Or to put it more simply:

V = mv_r + v_f

where m is given by the following:

No gaps	m = 1
Up to a quarter of the border is gaps	m = 7/8
Up to half of the border is gaps	m = 3/4
Up to three quarters of the border is gaps	m = 5/8
More than three quarters of the border is gaps	m = 1/2

I have not tested to see what effect overlapping rooms have on this, nor am I certain whether doors count as part of v_r or part of v_f.

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I was under the impression that dwarves never got "nice room" thoughts when sleeping in a dormitory.

I don't know whether that's true, but dwarves will admire good furniture when they pass right by it. If it's in a communal bedroom, it might be a good idea to set it up near the door so as many dwarves as possible pass by it.

Might be worth saving it until the monarch comes -- monarch requirements are hard to meet. Remember, you don't have to put it in the bedroom -- putting it in any room someone owns will raise the value of that room.

Also keep in mind that if you put it in anyone else's room, the higher-ranking nobles will be upset that a person of lower rank has a better room than they do. That doesn't apply to communal rooms, obviously.

Oh, right. I think sieges (and some other interesting events) are actually linked directly to caravan arrival, but I'd forgotten about that. I was just reminded when the latest caravan did come, and the siege arrived like half a second later.

I tend to feel that it should be made more predictable, not less. Right now, you can't really rely on the humans and elves bringing you what you want, so you make your own stuff. If you knew what it was going to be, you could plan ahead, which would be more interesting, I feel.

Just what the title says. For the last several seasons, caravans have stopped arriving. Why?