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They will not be able to destroy the grates while inside the fortification. Have never tested before tough

I tried wall-grates and fortifications in a trap once, and they both allowed creatures to pass at 7/7 water. I don't know about floor grates. I think they're safe, even at 7/7 water.

you can edit the raws for a particular save game too. you can change just about anything that way, except you can't delete or add a definition, so you can make i.e. a new race in an old world, but it replaces one of the races already there, and will still have the same heading in the raws - e.g. you can cut and paste the definition of a donkey into the DWARF entry and load the game, you have an embark of "donkeys"

you genned a new world I hope after editing the raws? In an existing game you could "sacrifice" an existing species (keep the uppercase name in [] brackets the same) and turn it into whatever you like. Whatever pets of the old race you had turn into the new one.

There's a lot of files there. exactly what are you doing / trying to do?

And you know the difference between editing the main raws (which affect new worlds) and save game raws?

I recommend making a "tigermen" Caste, rather than species, as part of the "dwarf" race. That would trick the game into getting them to work as workers, and the caste can have [PET][COMMON_DOMESTIC] too

If you don't want to get then as immigrants as well as pets, then you can give the Caste a low or zero POP_RATIO

http://df.magmawiki.com/index.php/DF2010:Caste

You really gotta cut and paste this into the wiki under 'ice'

That's what the [COMMON_DOMESTIC] tag does, makes them available at embark, with immigrants and caged from caravans (even for sentient civ races). [PET] just makes them tamable. There's not much point copying the race, just mod the existing one. If you stop them appearing in biomes, then no civ can get them in the first place, I think.

You might try [COMMON_DOMESTIC] with [PET_EXOTIC], I'm not 100% sure but that might give you "tame" ones from civ sources while not allowing you to tame wild ones.

Actually, try running [COMMON_DOMESTIC][PET] during worldgen, then editing to [PET_EXOTIC] in the save game. Not overly satisfying, but it would give you buyable Tigermen, but make "wild" ones non-tamable.

Ok everyone thanks for clarifying that for me, I guess I haven't had to face elite bowgoblins yet, or they were gotten by my other traps. I guess those "shutters" would come in handy when I discovered that fact.

Think production line. You can draw a graph with arrows showing flow, and the nodes in the graph are workshops and custom stockpiles. In this scheme workshops are always joined by stockpiles, not directly to other workshops. I usually think of them as linked in 6 directions (n,s,e,w and up and down), and try and get everything to link up nice.

I keep all my farms on one level, by channelling out half the farm from above. It's actually an 11x11 room, 8 farms of 3x5 (using an alternating pattern to fit them in, gotta take care to only channel the correct tiles for the above ground part). 4 each of above/below ground plots. Stairs down in the middle double as the only seed stockpile in the fortress. Below is a "raw plants only" stockpile. Next to the farms i put the farmers bedrooms, small dining room and meal + drinks only stockpiles. these areas become a "Farms" Burrow, so the farmers stay close and safe. All these things make the farms really efficient.

I connect the breweries either directly below the plants stockpile, or alongside, with a "Drinks" stockpile as close to the brewery as possible. Millstones and Threshers are to another side of the plants stockpile, i try and feed these into a "dyes and thread" stockpile on one side (leading into dyers+weavers => cloth pile => clothiers/crafts => finished goods => Trade Depot), and a "edible" stockpile leading into the kitchen.

The kitchen needs to be adjacent to many stockpiles, - the edible outputs of the millers and threshers, brewed drinks, butchers/meat/fat stockpiles, egg-laying area/stockpile, prepared meal stockpiles, making the kitchen an important consideration in how everything else links up. You theoretically could have stockpiles every direction (n,s,e,w,up,down) from the kitchens if it was planned nicely. I decide where to place the egg-production area last, because it doesn't need to be connected to anything else, so it can go down below the kitchens for example if there's nothing else there.

Prepared meals and drinks stockpile should also be right next to the Dining room.

That's my basic plan, then I just try and fit all that in together and make it look neat. I use 3-4 levels including the farms one. Usually just 3 levels though, coz i hate hunting around to find workshops.