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Couple more :

- Absolute lack of any sexual content/life ( aka American rightwinger hypocrisy ) - your heroes kill hundreds of people, maim, wound and ruin countless sentient creatures but god forbids if someone fucks anyone, there is absolutely no nudity or any kind of sexual life even in RPG's. Also conservatards going complete apeshit over naked tits in game ( GTA SA Hot Coffee comes to mind or Original textures to Oblivion scandal )/ any kind of "hard" content like sexual slavery, drugs, child killing, rape etc and no one cares about those many murders you commit in often various horrible ways.

Dud(ette), take a chill pill and stop being so insulting.  Someone believing differently from you doesn't make them a retard. Also - do you realize that using a learning disability / mental condition as an insult is incredibly insensitive?  You're just as blinkered as the people you're complaining about.   And how on earth have you missed the people who complain about violent games? I mean, we've only had people claiming that violence in games is going to cause problems for years.

If you mean, 'I want games to address complex issues in a mature and reasonable manner', then I agree with you. If you mean 'more collectible boob cards and inescapable sex scenes a la Witcher!'...I think we're going to have to agree to disagree.  I'd rather have a realistic relationship presented at Teen/PG-13 levels.

I think we agree that modern games are often too violent (although I do think that violence and sex are very distinct from each other - both can be problematic, but in different ways and for different reasons, so they're not really equivalents like you seem to think).  I'd prefer games to get less violent, instead of filling them with both violence and sex, but I'm going to guess that that isn't your preferred solution.

Pet Peeve: The tendency towards Lawful Stupid / Chaotic Dumb is irritating.  So are the fake-choice dialogs.  Games with complex stories or interesting ideas, or at least modding capability so players can make that, don't seem popular with publishers.

Quote from: Ghills on November 26, 2014, 06:07:10 pm

Animal keeping is now infinitely more tedious

How so?

Much more micromanagement needed. Instead of adjacent pastures, now either I have to do 1 big pasture per species (harder to secure, can't control where the animals go so overcrowding on single spots is harder to manage) or swap animals around frequently (much more player attention needed).

Quote from: Ghills on November 26, 2014, 06:07:10 pm

hauling still isn't fixed

Presumably this report?  It's helpful to link the report when requesting a fix.

I didn't link a report because it's not just a single issue. The way hauling is currently structured and handled, using bins results in more inefficiency and lag, not less.  Dorfs with conflicting demands on bins are a part of it, but there's also the 'bring a single item to bins vs bringing bins to a group of items' behavior (frequently seen in plant harvesting) and several other issues.   See http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=141588.msg5530552#msg5530552 and http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=143732.msg5660285#msg5660285 and http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=142374.msg5577059#msg5577059.   It's probably several issues / changes that are needed, and quite possibly a redesign of how items and storage containers intersect with hauling.

Maybe some of those have been fixed, but I haven't seen mentions of anything in the release lists since at least September.

Misogynist trolls and neo-Nazis got gaming into the mainstream news, again.  Why, why, do they need to validate their pitiful existence by harassing people? raaaaggggeeeeee

Sorry all, life got nutty. I'm in the middle of Murderflood atm, can I get bumped down the list here?

Quote from: Ghills on October 30, 2014, 06:59:35 pm

No idea why, but DF isn't recognizing the save.  I'm going to try more things tonight, but nothing as worked so far.  Anyone have suggestions?

The save was brought to 0.40.14 for the last part, so you need to get that. No stepladders, but feel free to DFHack them in.

Ah, that would do it.  I didn't see an upgrade notice in the update or the OP so I thought it was still 40.13.  So does this mean none of the tools work with our current save?

There's a lot of other good games from LucasArts also. I grabbed Tales of Monkey Island, it's the kind of game I like.

Need a link to a downloadable save.

Last I remembered we were using standard RAWs, right?  I'm probably going to install a tileset unless there's a good reason not to, because all that red in ASCII makes my eyes bleed.

Any chance of an update, or is raising another team too much of a slog?

Totally understandable if it is.