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Quote from: darkflagrance on May 09, 2011, 01:07:19 am

Quote from: Kepplerr on May 08, 2011, 11:36:33 pm

I've got a couple of sad lookin' goblin ghosts chillin' on my goblin corpse pile...

Didn't even know that goblins could come back as ghosts...

That's really strange. I've never encountered any non-dwarf ghosts before, and I atom smash the corpses of many invader goblins. Did you do anything strange to their corpses?

No, I haven't done anything to their corpses... Also, before I stopped using coffins. My dorfs kept trying to put the goblin corpses and body parts into the coffins, and when I looked at the coffins with Q it would show up as Current Owner: [Generic goblin name here]...

EDIT: No, it isn't a reclaim

Maybe you're actually at peace with the goblins. Have you modded the Goblin raws at all?

My dwarves just elected a thirteen year old to the office of Mayor. They must realize, as I do, how worthless the position actually is. They're just doing it to mess with me.

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Holy crap, the dwarves are metagaming.

the Capitalism god.

I've got Teshkad (Price), the West Way of Wealth. Pretty apt.

My favorite because it is the most visually evocative, however, is ékil Calledmines the Fair Sculpture, deity of mountains, earth, volcanos, fire, the sun. And, presumably, MAGMA.

My most recent fort has no iron either. I "adapted" to this lack by building lots of cage traps and just taking all of my iron equipment from goblins. That pretty much had me set up for iron weapons and some portion of iron armor needs. To get other iron I grab everything made of iron that I can from dwarven and human caravans. Puzzle boxes, instruments, oversized armor, etc, can all be melted down to give me what I need. I've never had much to work with, but I have enough to meet my fort's needs.

I think they're both great. However, I find that having played both quite a bit, Dwarf Fortress has held my attention for longer. Minecraft just seems emptier after a while. Maybe once there are big increases in the sheer amount of gameplay I'll switch over to Minecraft again. The next update for Minecraft is maps; the next update for DF is whole cities. Wolves? M'kay, whatevs. This is not an objective assessment of course, nor is such possible, and if maps make you cream your pants it's all good with me. It's certainly pretty cool all around.

In ten years, Dwarf Fortress will be able to simulate a player playing Dwarf Fortress, after which Toady will take it into closed beta testing.

Hm, I wonder what these levers in my dining hall do... they don't connect to any floodgates, So I guess they're okay to pull. What's the worst that could happen?

One Q-a-P later...

Scary-Ass Forgotten Beast has destroyed a door!

I look for the location of the beast frantically. It is on one of the marble layers, set up for marble crafting and masonry, attacking haulers; I send everything I have at them.

Then the second one walks in. And this one is able to spit out both frozen and boiling forgotten beast extract. Blood and "mist" go everywhere. Final death toll is something like seven, including my Legendary Macedwarf Captain of the Guard.

This was not too long before a goblin siege showed up and managed to kill most of the caravan from the mountainhalls, mostly because they took the long way from the edge of the map to the trade depot. A goblin elite marksman was able to kill three or four of my marksdwarves by shooting through the fortifications from a z-level below. Several militiadwarves were caught out in the open for days on end, but were able to run away from the siegers long enough to make their way to one of the open fort entrances. Ironically, Trolls weren't very dangerous in hand-to-hand combat except when they managed to knock a dwarf into a body of water, drowning them. The siege eventually broke when enough were killed.

In short, later summer to mid-winter of 527 was one big season of Face Palm for Cloistersummit. On the plus side, I now have most of my levers labeled with points.

The Sword of Truth books by Terry Goodkind had some good unusual creatures in them. The least spoilerific of these are some humanoids called Andolians who lived to carry messages from place to place. One lesson to draw from those books is that tying "interactions" to objects to create these creatures with unusual motivations is a good idea. The Vorpal Blade can cut through even adamantium--but only at the cost of turning your adventurer into a creature who must eat a -small iron right gauntlet- every day to live! Or some such silly procedural curse.