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General Discussion / Re: The Crossover Thread
« on: April 20, 2014, 09:13:07 pm »
I don't see UNSC weapons doing any damage to 40k Marines, with the possible exception of heavy weapons. Remember that these are guys who can wade through incoming fire that is heavy by 40k standards, let alone most other sci-fi. If an energy weapon capable of blowing limbs off isn't going to do more than smudge the paintwork a little, and equivalent-power slugs from the same setting will just ping off, then what are UNSC bullets going to do? And let's not get into how one-sided melee combat will be.
The alien weapons on the other hand are plasma-based, and if we assume they are on the same level as 40k plasma weapons (maybe the Tau versions - safer but lower-powered) can be an actual threat to the Marines. If they're actually worse, then no worries for the Marines. Plasma sword would be decently worrying, but nobody other than a SPARTAN would last long enough to use one.
Bolters aren't fancy, but let's not forget that they shoot armor-piercing explosive rounds by default. Anything lighter than the heaviest tank in the UNSC arsenal would be shredded quickly, and I'm not sure how long even a SPARTAN shield would last against that kind of punishment. How much damage do grenades do to SPARTANS in the Halo-verse? Because that's basically what every shot would be like. That's not even touching on heavy weapons, which would include heavy bolters, assault cannons, autocannons, lascannons, missile launchers, multimeltas, and plasma weapons of their own.
Melee combat would be almost entirely in the Marine's favor. They are to big, to heavily armored, and (thanks to the fact that it's powered armor) just to fast for normal humans to deal with. SPARTANS probably could survive, at which point it would come down to training and weapons. A devastator with a knife, for instance, would be fodder. An assault marine sergeant with a power weapon, on the other hand? Would not be betting on the SPARTAN.
So yeah, pretty much in agreement with FD. If the battle were on open terrain, where the UNSC could take advantage of superior range and numbers, it would be difficult for the Marines to prevail. In close terrain, the Marine's superior toughness and more devastating weapons would carry the day with ease. it would be a bloodbath either way.
The alien weapons on the other hand are plasma-based, and if we assume they are on the same level as 40k plasma weapons (maybe the Tau versions - safer but lower-powered) can be an actual threat to the Marines. If they're actually worse, then no worries for the Marines. Plasma sword would be decently worrying, but nobody other than a SPARTAN would last long enough to use one.
Bolters aren't fancy, but let's not forget that they shoot armor-piercing explosive rounds by default. Anything lighter than the heaviest tank in the UNSC arsenal would be shredded quickly, and I'm not sure how long even a SPARTAN shield would last against that kind of punishment. How much damage do grenades do to SPARTANS in the Halo-verse? Because that's basically what every shot would be like. That's not even touching on heavy weapons, which would include heavy bolters, assault cannons, autocannons, lascannons, missile launchers, multimeltas, and plasma weapons of their own.
Melee combat would be almost entirely in the Marine's favor. They are to big, to heavily armored, and (thanks to the fact that it's powered armor) just to fast for normal humans to deal with. SPARTANS probably could survive, at which point it would come down to training and weapons. A devastator with a knife, for instance, would be fodder. An assault marine sergeant with a power weapon, on the other hand? Would not be betting on the SPARTAN.
So yeah, pretty much in agreement with FD. If the battle were on open terrain, where the UNSC could take advantage of superior range and numbers, it would be difficult for the Marines to prevail. In close terrain, the Marine's superior toughness and more devastating weapons would carry the day with ease. it would be a bloodbath either way.
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