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I would probably suggest checking out the original before dismissing the series as a whole, though.

For the last time, I didn't know there was a "series as a whole" to dismiss when I watched the OVA and wrote my little first impression. I have not seen any of the original episodes or whatever there were. I have never once claimed to know anything about the series other than what I could glean from two 10-minute episodes with no comprehend-able dialogue.

For fuck's sake.

Screw it, I can't deal with this any more. Enjoy your VOTOMS, I'll find something else to watch.

If I could actually understand what anyone was saying, perhaps I wouldn't have such a big problem with the plot. But as it is I don't know if the loss of the battle was due to incompetence, bad planning, evil leaders, simple unfathomable stupidity or some combination of the above.

I could have sworn that the pylons were dropped where they were supposed to be, because it was pretty obvious when an airship got shot down and at least some of them showed no signs of taking damage that I could see.

I'm admittedly not fond of pointless battles (my biggest gripes about Attack on Titan were in large part due to these), but a show has to have something else to grab my attention - interesting characters, creepy monsters, good action scenes, hell even a romance subplot. Anything, really. The VOTOMS OVA pretty much had nothing.

The AA would have killed many of the mechs. But that's why you don't drop one or two, you drop dozens at a time from each ship. A comparatively tiny mech moving in all three dimensions at once is a hell of a lot harder to hit than a fuckheug airship moving in a straight line, and the AA didn't seem all that accurate. For each mech that dies middrop, at least one would have survived to make trouble. Or maybe not, but at least it would have been better than focusing entirely on landing on the beach.

Snow Crash is ostensibly about a theoretical future!Internet, and being written before the Internet really took off it predicted a large number of terms and concepts with reasonable accuracy (like the use of the term "avatar"). It also featured the Deliverator (a car straight out of Speed Racer used for pizza deliveries) and a nuclear-powered minigun called Reason. These things take up such a huge amount of discussion on the book that you would be forgiven for thinking that the entire book was about those. Instead, the Deliverator is gone less than a quarter of the way through, Reason shows up for two chapters near the climax, and the prediction stuff is relegated to infodumps. A good portion of the rest is Sumerian (pretty sure it was Sumerian, been a while since I read it) myth, new-age crap, and a really creepy relationship between the main antagonist and a teenage girl.

So just to be clear you're complaining about a show that you watched in a language you don't understand?

Yes. Which I have repeatedly stated. Good job for catching on, I know that must have been difficult.

I'm assuming they are protags on the basis of having faces and voices while we don't even see who they are invading. You don't usually give more characterization to the antagonists, or else they become the protagonists simply by virtue of being recognizable.

So instead of just being incompetent, the leadership is evil and incompetent. You're not making a convincing argument in favor of continuing the series here.

Some of the airships got wrecked. At least half of them survived to drop those pylons, and they wouldn't have had far to go to drop the mechs on top of the cliff. And even the ones that did get wrecked could still drop the pylons. Sure, many of the mechs probably would have died in the landing, but the survivors could rejoin the battle.

Honestly, the big problem I have with the OVA is the same one I had with Snow Crash; awesome stuff is promised (intense mecha combat/insanely cool car and Reason, respectively). Awesome stuff is delivered, to degrees of satisfaction. And then the awesome stuff goes away and the rest is rather boring.

That was OOC, which may or may not reflect how things actually work out
It all depends on how people treat her. Shotrin's first impression was a good idea of how not to do it :v

And I still don't even know who to ship with :p
Maybe Luke and Jasmine will have some chemistry.

Quote from: Sirus on March 30, 2014, 01:14:33 pm

I liked that part as well. It's odd to have people wish death on me :/

You can flee California in your party truck, at least.

Yeah, but all my stuff is here :/