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Civilian. Definitely civilian.

2 reasons why:

It allows you to put civilian engines on them without getting a TON of failure rate.
It allows civilian shipping companies to build them.

Both are VERY important.



You can boss around any ship you build.

Another reason is that cargo bays are frickin MASSIVE, and your commercial shipyards are the easiest to upgrade. You can tack on 10,000 tons of capacity to a commercial shipyard in the time it takes to add maybe 2,000 tons to a military shipyard.

Near the end of the game of course, your warships will probably be at least that big.

Terraforming installations (and possibly other things, not sure) take up more than that. My first freighters are always 25,000 kg capacity, and they require about 2 trips for a single terraformer.

@ Flying Dice: Of course not. I have Nevada for that 

@ Tarran: That must be it. I fired up Aurora in response to Ruler's post, and Oxygen content is at 30.38%

I need help/advice D:

Standard Earth game, earlier today got Mars to 0.00 colony cost. I began removing the infrastructure to Venus while I left the terraforming installations to get Mars a bit more Earth-like by adding more oxygen. Well, I suddenly got the warning that unrest was rising on Mars due to overcrowding, and sure enough Mars had somehow shot back up to 1.8 cost.

I've checked oxygen and temperature levels, and they are both well within the required range. Unfortunately, at this point even if I brought back all of the infrastructure Mars had previously, it would still have about 5 million too many people. What's wrong with Mars?

I've set mine at 3,000, 2,500, 900 (lost colony rebuilding scenario) and even 40,000 

Anyway SirAaron, I have two suggested starts: One if you want a standard game, and one if you want a slightly easier game.

For a default game, leave all of the options the way they were when the game started. Turn off Invaders if they aren't off already

For a slightly easier game, set all of the species tolerances higher than normal. For oxygen pressure and gravity, set them to 80%, the maximum. For temperature you should set it to at least 25, and atmospheric density to at least 4 or 5. Set NPR generation chance and starting NPRs to 0, to ensure safety while learning the ropes. Increase the starting number of labs and shipyards.

Optional for both:

• Check the box for "No Overhauls Needed". This will allow you to concentrate on moving your ships without worrying about possible breakdowns.
• Turn off any of the special enemies as you see fit.
• Turn off Inexperienced Fleets.

Once you start, get SCIENCE going immediately. Look at what your scientists specialize in, and focus accordingly.
Begin construction on whatever you need more of. You typically have plenty of mines, so I usually start by building a few extra labs and maybe an additional shipyard or two.

Aside from the name, that sounds exactly like the Black Widow perk from Fallout 3. I don't remember any uproar over that.

Don't worry about bumping.

Yes, this has been rather update-less for week. No, I have not been abducted by aliens or whatever. Just mundane school stuff.
I should have time to crank out the  rest of the year tomorrow.