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Quote from: Sirus on February 25, 2016, 01:32:43 pm

Conquest Chapter 12...I don't know how to do Chapter 12.

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You need to either beat the boss (who's very powerful) or get Corrin to the exit...before the end of turn 16. All these damn pots in the way. There's a dragon vein tile where you can smash all of the pots but that's only mildly beneficial at best considering how good pots and bad pots are scattered about almost at random. This also allows every enemy on the map (and there are a crapton of them) nearly free movement.

Still, I very nearly won on my first attempt. I decided to forgo strategy and blitz towards the exit by pairing Corrin up with Beruka. It worked well at first; both of the named enemies were defeated and Beruka got some amazing levels (the best levels I've seen all game, sadly). I got through the penultimate room by switching to Corrin, equipping the dragonstone, and tanking the archers until they gave up to charge south against the remainder of my army (which had barely moved). I then had Beruka kill one of the samurai guarding the exit with a throwing axe before the staff-wielding jerks in the upper map corners began messing things up. If I had been given 17 turns (and hadn't lost Kaze to an opportunistic archer) I would have won for sure.

So Now I'm wondering whether I should try rushing with additional units, or just try another single-unit rush and hope for RNG to favor me even more than it already did.

Yeah, chapter 12, I had trouble with that one too, then I felt like an idiot when the game basically tells you upfront how to beat it, and I was just ignoring it. This is my rough summary of how I did it:

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This is gonna sound counterintuitive, but in order to go fast, you have to take your time. The key to victory lies in the medicine pots, every unit caught in the radius of when you break one has a random chance of endowing a +4 to one stat, or +2 to two stats, which lasts for the entire chapter, and stacks. There's about 8-9 medicine pots between your starting point and the castle, take your time, have all your units bunch around each one for maximum effect, if you do that then all your guys will be BEEFED UP. Before you hit the dragon vein, have your stronger units pick off the first couple of units, ESPECIALLY the archers with lunge. Once those guys are down, hit the dragon vein with Camilla or Azura or someone.

I was extremely nervous by the time I had finally singled out Ryoma, so I didn't get the chests, but I did manage to kill Ryoma by hitting him with a steel dagger for the debuff, then dogpilling him.

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Thanks Fire Emblem. This is definitely important information to know in the game, just like who has the best thighs in the army.

Quote from: Sirus on February 24, 2016, 12:15:43 am

ARGH

I was so close to beating Chapter 11 and then a teamed-up enemy attacked one of my squishies that had moved forward to score an easy kill. I had calculated that she could survive an attack from the active enemy, but I had forgotten to check the other enemy. That one had more than sufficient attack power to kill her, meaning that I now get to start this long slog of a chapter all over again.

Dammit Azura, what do I have to do? Have you sing a million times before ending each chapter?

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Well, there's your problem, letting Azura being attacked at all in a big no-no. While I usually have her supporting very close to the front lines, she'll always stay just out of the Purple Zone, usually to use her sings on Elise or Jakob so they can get an extra heal in.

I thought Chapter 11 was alright, but for me it was extremely slow and methodical progressing from room to room. I actually burned through 5 or so retries, cause I kept getting guys killed early on because I was fumbling and stumbling over how stairs work. Damn you stairs, my only weakness!

My advice for Chapter 11: I'd personally just focus on the right path, because the left path has ninjas that all know lunge, and lunge is just the most bullshit move in the game. I mean, I DID manage to kill all those ninjas, but only with the help of Effie and her crazy good defense, so she was getting juggled around all willy-nilly around that room, but even then I think I got really lucky she didn't die.

But anyway, going up the right path is considerable easier, not only because there's easier enemies that the protag and Jakob/Felicia can beast on, there's also a miniboss guy who will use up all his staff uses and then proceed to do exactly nothing. Don't even need to kill him. Just be ULTRA SUPER CAREFUL of the guy in the penultimate room with the 'Life or Death' skill, which doubles the damage he both deals and receives.

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It was still a slog, but I fought my way through both paths. I just gave Beruka a hand axe, paired her with Camilla, and tossed her into the ninja room. They only lasted a couple of turns while barely doing more than scratch damage

Beruka was the star of the map, really. Taking out all the ninja gave her a C-rank in axes, allowing her to use this club I acquired from somewhere that reverses the weapon triangle and exaggerates the effects. The myrmidons in the penultimate room didn't stand a chance.

By the way, I discovered that the Hoshidan princess (whose name I can't remember at the moment) has quite a lot of special dialog. Battles against Azura (don't worry, she survived this time), Camilla, and Corrin all produced unique pre-battle conversations. Maybe Ellie would have as well, but she got hit with that hex staff and did not have the HP to survive even a single round against the boss.

Now it's time for Chapter 12. This looks...fun.