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They dont complain about a lack of soap, they just die to infections.

Why did you kill him?

Catch him and try some fun stuff. I think elves will like your titan as well (uncaged next to their trade depot)

Got one bronze golem yesterday, he was kind enough to walk over a bridge. I pulled the lever and let him fall straight into the river below. After this I digged a chanel to the river and placed a Cagetrap at the new entrance to my fortress.

Now I have a caged bronze golem and am thinking about some ways to use him.


Is there any way to order my dwarfes just to chop his arms (6 of them...) and legs of without hurting his head? I placed his cage in a seperate room, saved and let my military dwarfes fight him. I tried this 5 times but the best I got was 3 chopped of arms, until one of my axedwarfes chopped of his head...If I let my dwarfes fight him unarmed he kills them. In the end he ist still a freeking powerfull golem...


Btw, if I got rid of his arms, use him as practice object and my dwarfes hurt him somehow, is he able to heal himself?

A Bear (Badgerman?) beating the shit out of some guy.

With 41 Dwarfes you should be able to get at least 6 Marksdwarfes.

2 for each Giant Capybara should be enough to slow them down or even kill them. They should be one level above "adequate" so their firingspeed increases.



@ Topic: I just wanna point out the Irony for someone with this avatar being slaughtered by Badgermen.

The Problem with all these methods, they need time for preparation, sometimes I get the first ambush during summer year 1. If I focus all my dwarfes on building these sort of fancy traps they starve to death etc. Most the time I start with 2 Axedwarfes and some leather armor but unless I train some of the first imigrants I get killed.

I´ll try the lever Danger room and hope I can get some metal Equipment realy early.



That should do it, unless my metal squad dont get slaughtered by leather goblins...

How do I find magma?

Diging down until there is warm stone and diging further.


Actually Magma is no big deal, military usefull Metal on the other hand is. On my last embarks I got most the time only gold, Silver and some Platinum. Well, on the other hand I get a legendary metalcrafter realy fast and sell Crafts for 100.000* to the first caravan. (Well, actually I could do so, but most the time they dont carry enough stuff ^^)

Seriously, how the hell do you defend yourself without trapps?

I tried everything, from some sort of zerg style (36 Dwarfes total Population, 25 Dwarfes in military) to some sort of spezialized Dwarfes with full steel Equipment.

Now I got at least two Problems:

1. My stupid Dwarfes wont stay inside my fortress.

Seriously, I tried everything. I have no Fishing/Hunting/Plantgathering Dwarf, I forbid everything, I created an underground forrest, underground water zones, wells and got full food stockpiles but my dwarfes still go outside. What do they do there? Watch the Sun... For god sake, they are dwarfes, why do they watch the sun? Anyway, I created a Tower, build a sculpture garden and some extra meeting zones on top of it so my dwarfes can watch the sun while being save. Well, now they watch the lake... My underground lake with Magma Pond right next to it, full of engraved diamond, silver and gold walls seems to be not enough for these pussies O.o
(it was a pain in the ass to create this thing and they still prefer the 3/7 mudhole outside...)

2. My Military gets owned:

Thats some big Problem. It doesnt matter what I try, the first Siege or Beast kills me. I have no chance of survival. (I once defeatet a Dragon, but only because he got caught in a wooden cage trap...)

First of all, how the hell does training work nowadays? I create a Squad of 3, set training to 2 and create a barrack wich I set to "TZIQ" to the squad (just like the wiki says). I go to the squad menu and set the squad to active/training. So everything should be allright, right? Wrong... I have no freeking idea, where the Problem is. In the older versions with the old military System I create a squad, order it to train and I get some Elitewrestlers after 1-1,5 years. Nowadays nothing happens.

I think I saw two dwarfes sparing one time, but most the time only two of three dwarfes stay within the barracks, the other guys wanders around. Yeah, the Squad Leader organizes some training, but this training never happens. He just oranizes some, then the next month comes, he switches to his civilian job for a sec and everything starts again...

Also, in the old Versions, these Elitewrestlers where able to defend my fortress. In the new Version even full steel equiped Elitehammerdwarfes (I recently got 2 Elite Hammerdwarf+ Elite Armor User + Elite Dodger with some migrants. Even Chuck Norris would be afraid of these guys.) get owned by a leather wearing Goblin ambush... Seriously, 2 steel equiped Elite Hammerdwarfes, around 10 metal equiped (mostly iron) Meledwarfes with random weapons and 5 Marksdwarfes (wich trained for nearly 2 years) got owned by an Ambush with 8 Goblins.

The Result: 3 surviving Goblins, 0 Dwarfes…. Oh and 2 Dwarfes within my fortress went straight berserk, killed my fortress and got slaughtered by the goblins.


I know, loosing is "Fun" and I lost in some realy funny ways (Once I got killed by a jumping Minotaur Head. Well it must have been a jumping head, after all his arms, legs, his lower and upper body got cut of) but this sort of loosing sucks. Once the message "A vile force of Darkness…." comes up I can abadon my fortress. Even if I close my fortress, migrants get killed, my Dwarfes are throwing tantrums (Jep, everyone has a 5x5 masterpiece engraved bedroom full with Chests, Armor stands etc, Goldstatues all over the place and the Stockpile full of Food but they throw tantrums...) and my fortress dies.


I once created some sort of dwarfen machine gun (20 Marksdwarfes on one tower) wich worked pretty well, but the wood you need for training and fighting is to expensive and you cant use this sort of tactic in special embark zones like mountains or a glacier. Actually, I think the only military unit wich is usefull are the marksdwarfes. They train, they hurt the enemy and they are safe behind fortifications. Well, as long as my stupid dwarfes stay inside the fortress.


So how the hell do you defend against the first ambushes without traps and how does training realy work nowadays?