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I went to and Elven Retreat that was conquered by humans and in their control.

There are elves manning the human style shops.  They are selling leather and bone items.  When I mark an item [T], the offer commands (a,b,c, etc) do nothing.  I can't sell them anything, either.

Not even playing, just pouring over genealogies and site histories.  Came across two instances of wierdness.

Puc was appointed the leader of a conquered forest retreat in 120.  Unfortunately, he was burned up a year later by a visiting dragon.  The group eventually built a meadhall in 132.  However, no new leader was appointed/came to power until 183.  Perhaps this was Puc's original death date and the dragon messed that up?

That's the relatively easy one.

Next is Nod, who became a High Priestess in 110 for a church in another town (founded by the same group that conquered the forest retreat).  In 120, the group conqured another forest retreat and named Nod as its leader.  Nod "stopped ruling" at the church by their record, but never gave up the High Priestess status (she's still alive in 200 and her personal record still shows her as High Priestess).

In adventure mode, I went to the church and asked the members for some info - they refer to Nod as the leader of the religion - but I have to find her 'wherever she might be.'  They also let me know Nod was the leader of the group that rules the forest retreat.  It would take some real sleuthing to figure out where this High Priestess was going purely by adventure mode chat.

Since I did know where it was, though, I went there.  Her icon and title were that of High Priestess.  She was both able to admit me into the religion and to give me a task as the leader of her new group.

Wordy, I know.  I don't think there's a bug with a high priest also ruling a town, its pretty cool, the bug is that there's not enough verbage in adventure mode to actually be able to find her new location if I wanted to join that religion.

I'm not discussing this in the bug forum just yet, as it may be related to Req418.

The following metal bar transmutations do not create added wealth (ignore ore value and use of charcoal - assume magma furnace; number in parenthesis is qty received from recipe; ignore bar weight; didn't review steel bars):

BAR	COST	BASE VALUE	EXT VALUE
billon (2)	60	30	60
sterling silver (4)	160	40	160
black bronze (4)	220	55	220
electrum (2)	200	100	200
rose gold (4)	460	115	460

These transmutations do add wealth:

BAR	COST	BASE VALUE	EXT VALUE
lay pewter (4)	40	15	60
nickel silver (4)	40	15	60
trifle pewter (3)	30	20	60
bronze (2)	20	25	50
fine pewter (4)	40	25	100
bismuth bronze (4)	40	30	120
brass (2)	20	35	70

All currently produce the same number of bars as is consumed.
Which should it be, added wealth or no?  Other factors involved?  Discuss.  (Including checking the math).

I had a dwarven caravan spawn right after the gobbos (siege, not ambush) attacked.

They were pretty much destroyed right as they came on screen - I even think some were destroyed before the wagon even spawned.

I noticed on my stocks screen there was some red booze (number to right of stock number).  When I zoom to the booze, it takes me to the site of the wagon destruction - but there is no barrel, no nothing.  I have several items in my stock list that I can't get to/clean up because they somehow don't exist in the world.

This is for all of you that like to sketch or draw/paint/water/blood/vomit.

I have a pantheon that I'd rather like to see.  I'm fairly creative myself, but I love seeing what other people come up with.

So, I want to see your renditions of my pantheon.  I'm thinking of the old D&D sketches where they'd show you a group of NPCs all in one pic, except this would be more like a Rogues Gallery shot of gods.

I may turn it into a sort of contest.  Perhaps donate some $ in your name. Something.

I like detail, but I like character more.  I want to see what these gods represent by what you give them for clothes, noses, etc.  Character.  To get an understanding of this, watch The Name of the Rose - notice how each of the main monks have their own character typified in their features.  That's what I'm looking for.

How long would you need?  A week? A month?  Sign up here and let me know.

You can post your pics, but judging is completely at my whim.

Here is the Dramatis Personę (no particular order):

Kerlīg, female dwarf - rulership, fortresses
Rśbal Uvelbekom "Bearspring", male dwarf - rain, fertility, agriculture, food
ūd, male dwarf - oaths, loyalty, song, poetry, persuasion, speach
Momuz Nökorrakust "the Dead Tomb", female dwarf - suicide (This explains alot with DF)
Vumom Ottanthīkut "the Mindful Books", female dwarf - wisdom, scholarship, writing
Luslem Adrungak "Sunskunk", male dwarf - moon, night, stars, plants
Gulgun, female dwarf - dusk, twilight, deformity
Ruzos, female dwarf - freedom
Thol, male dwarf - volcanos, earth, caverns, mountains
Tath Tholnekut Tithleth "the Deep Secret of Rumors", female dwarf - dreams
Osram, female dwarf - jewels, wealth

Run with it.  You can even team up with a writer to give histories, relations, etc.

Looking forward to the results.

Do dwarf pets have to roam in order to give the dwarf the thought "comforted by a pet" or can the pet be locked in a cage in the zoo?  (I can't stand to see a dwarf going to his bedroom with 2 mules in tow...)

I tend to lock up all animals and only let a few out to be adopted - do they even need to be let out to be adopted, or just tagged as available?

Thanks.

I have a room full of cages and I used one to designate the room.  However, the justice option remains grayed out.  Can cages not be used as a jail?  I'm using wooden cages - is that the problem?  I've always used chains/rope before, so I'm not sure if there's a problem with this or not.

No, that's not 133t-speak, just wondering if a dwarf has line of sight through the levels of zAxis?

Case in point, if I have a ramp going down three levels, but on the second level down build a room with fortifications overlooking the ramp, will marksdwarves only cover the ramp on that level or will they fire on the full length of the ramp?

(I'll have to learn the symbols so I can code a pic for you...)