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"Mayhem Visits the Quaint Thorpe"

/Real Buildings (with Doors and Windows!)
|City Walls
|Roads
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These are nice, and they don't seem THAT hard to program.
I suppose that a building/wall could be considered somewhat like
a BIG item that is on the ground, while roads are just alterations
to the ground by trampling it(like making trampled dirt roads)or
by placing stone blocks on them.
Also you should start implementing the concept of "ownership"on
these things, so If you try to destroy these buildings(not impossible
if you are a titan or a strong human with a pickaxe)the owners and/or guards.
I would also like VERY much if you would allow the player to construct his
own buildings. This would use an interface similar to the current one for making
pants/shirts and so on, but to build an house you would most probably
use wood. You might use stone if you managed to get some from the ground(pickaxes
again!). Of course building a big villa complete with a swimming isn't easy, but
then all that I'm asking is to be able a little hut or a wooden cottage. Obviously
WILL also require a lot of time in addition to work. It's not like you can patch
two or three wooden planks together and then have a nice home.

|Put in some decent creature AI (or at least begin)
|Starting conversation interface with shops
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AI is important, but for the moment we can be happy with 'decent'AI, as you
say. Basic AI would, for hostile creatures, be mostly knowing when to attack,
when to retreat and where to aim their blows. Guards would try to kill
a player who steals from shops. There should be some kind of legal system...
but that's for the future!
About AI, it might also be nice to put some complex spell that allowed
you to charm creatures into following your orders. Charming shopkeepers
would be a way to steal, but the guards might not like this use of magic...
Regarding conversations, some basic things that should be in would be
asking for directions, asking for local shops, local creatures and so on.
You should also be able to at least TRY to barter with anyone.

|Weapon and armor stores
|Combat style teachers
|Magic shops
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We REALLY need to be able to buy and/or make some different kinds of armor
and weapons. We need different types and forms of swords, daggers, knives,
axes, spears, halberds, maces, hammers, and maybe flails and whips.

For armor, we should also have helms(possibly open-faced), boots,
gauntlets and leg-guards. These could be done in many ways.
You could make an extra-thick shirt or pair or pants and call
it 'cloth armor', use the skins of tough creatures to make hide armor
or you could make more complex armors like chain and scale mail(that would
make dragon hunting useful, but scales can also be made of bone or wood).
Plate mail would also be appreciated. Also, shields should be in,
The problem is...how would the player build the more complex armors in-game?
That would require the addition of mining and forging...And these would probably
very complex things.

Some ideas for basic enchantments on magic items. Since this is a wonderfully
complex game, we can't have things like a +1 sword or a +4 armor of deflection.
No! We need things that somewhat make sense..

armor:
increased durability/hardness, reduced mass(these refer to the armor...not to the wearer!)
boosting strength by some amount, making areas covered by the armor heal faster

weapons:
increased durability & hardness(that would simulate a plus to damage, by virtue
of allowing you to penetrate armor and tough skin. also, when real parrying will be
in, you will be able to cut lesser weapons), increased edge for beheadings and mutilations
with a 'blade of sharpness',
striking part(not the hilt, hopefully!)being red-hot or freezing and causing appropriate wounds, arrows that fly farther and explode on contact, items that return back to you when you throw them, draining stats, blood or energy.

'Slaying'weapons could probably work with reactions. For example a DragonSlayer(TM)
sword would be set up to dissolve and/or burn the dragon's flesh once in contact with it.

Also it would be nice to have sullies.

other items(rings, amulets, articles of clothing):
increased durability & hardness...ON THE WEARER'S body, improved healing rate,
making the wearer not bleed(Excalibur's scabbard had this),
boosting stats by some non-trivial but nice amount(+10 for a decent item
sounds Ok to me).

Also note that in most RPGs you can't get the effects from more than 2 rings.
In armok we should be able to do so! The only limit to how many rings you can wear
and get magic effects from should only be the ones that can fit around your
fingers and toes, and you could also have the rings adapted to be earrings.

All magic items might have a chance to emit light or to have symbols floating around them.
And some items could be "activale", that is not always on. They might have charges,and
once they are finished you can just throw the item away, or the charges might be
restored by a magician, some strange ritual or just with time. For example
you could have a talisman that once per day allowed you to become a giant(doubling
all your dimensions and giving appropriate strength bonuses to support your now
massive weight)without bursting your armor, or a sword that, in addition to being
very sharp, could also detonate enemies on command.

|Curses (undead, etc.)
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Yup. You would(should) be able to be a vampire, a zombie, a mummy or
a ghost, or you could meet them in your travels. Or you could
use some corpse processing + spell. It's not that hard:
for a mummy, you would have to clean it by removing all rottable things
like organs, washing the body and then having it dry in the sun. Then
you would embalm it or something and cast your spell, and you would have
a servant who is much stronger, faster and tougher than a zombie, but
not more intelligent(and somewhat more vulnerable to fire).

Being a ghost could also be simply done as just being a soul without the body,
but capable of using some specific magics(like telekinesis).
When the player slays a very important NPC we could have it, after some day,
turn into a Revenant and hunt the player. Might be a nice surprise!

Lycantropy/theriantropy would also be nice, but I suppose that actual
morphing is much later in the list. And we would need actual moon phases.

There should also be many non-undeath non-turn-into-a-man-eating-monster-at-full-moon
curses. These could also be simple things, for example being attacked by relatively
pacific animals(yup. attacked by rabbits and ants. scared?),

Cursed items...I might have placed this under the above section but still...Anyway,
unlike other games we could have cursed items that you can remove or throw
away if you want, but that you WON'T easily know are cursed, or that compensate
the curse with good bonuses. Or perhaps they are actually items with great powers,
but every time you use time it costs them something, like you loose 1 from all
your mental stats, or you the item drains blood from you.

some cursed item effects: decrease stats, gradually becoming smaller and smaller,
rings that crush your fingers, amulets of strangulation, armor of stritulation,

I hope someday we can have the game generate great artifact with apprpriate
drawbacks. Think to Stormbringer. It DID try to control it's wielder and do things
that aren't nice, but still it was a very powerful item, able to penetrate most
armor and damage outerworly creatures, not to mention the main power, that of
absorbing the vitality of your adversaries.

|Correct Post-Travel Mode Placement
|Refine the Civilization Entities
|Add Local Civilizations below the World Level
|Fix some strangely placed building bugs (yet to be created bugs, but there will be some)
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Nice things too. I haven't got much to say on these, honestly.
I would like to see some bandits, travelers and highwaymen on the round, though,
and for people in different towns to wear different kind of things and carry
different types of armor and sell different things and so on...

SOME GENERIC COMMENTS:

This release will, hopefully make the game MUCH more enjoyable and allow some kind of continuity and REAL meaning to the game. You might be gain money by selling off
body parts of animals, or chooping trees(how would you carry the trunk, though?
if you are an human you should be able to use some sort of 'drag'mode).
You could then buy some nice, useful items, especially armor and weapons, but
you might also be able to create them yourself.

Also, since we are going to have curses and some character continuity...

THINGS THAT WERE IN THE PLAN FOR "You Finally Aren't Naked":

GENERIC THINGS TO DO FOR THE NEXT RELEASE:

Descriptions for body parts. They are there in the encyclopedia, but
not in-game for severed limbs and organs.

Add waiting options like "wait until sunrise"or "wait until sunfall". This
is useful for creatures that turn that turn to stone during the day, and then
it's irrealistic for them to have to wait in 8 hours chunk instead of just when
they regain movement. This wouldn't be that useful for shadow demons, assuming
they found a place to hide during the day, because how could they notice when it's
actual sunrise?(perhaps by watching outside from the cave but it might be dangerous).
Some creatures could actually have perfect timing or an internal clock and thus
would be able to wait until precise times.

Fix the Editors to appear in ALL resolutions, both in full screen and in windowed
mode.

Allow a preview for the player deformations. Also, It might be nice
(and possibly not that hard) for customizzation to allow the starting player
to have symbols on some body parts...that is, tattos!.
Not THAT important but would look nice.

Also allow 'blank'symbols, and then when they are used in game you could
select their color.

Symbols might also look nice if we found a way to put them on armor/weapons:
something like the smith's signature, for example, or the symbol of a certain army.
And they are VERY important things for things like flags and a Knight's shield.

Also, it would not be bad if we allowed the player to make his simbols using
colors and a 'Painting'(or 'Drawing'skill). They player would simply use
a modified symbol editor in game, but he would be limited by the size of
the thing he is painting on and the colors he possesses. Colors would
be obtained mostly from plants(berries) and minerals, but you could use other substances
as well... "Wow, that shade of red looks like REAL blood." The actual design
that would appear on the item would be somewhat modified by the player tools
and/or dexterity. Also a design could be stored in the player's memory.

Sculpture might be somewhat harder to do, but I can think of a nice way:
It would be done by starting from a block of some hard material(usually stone,
but also bronze or bone)and then crafting it either from memory or model, for example making a sculpture of that dragon you slew, or part-by-part, with an editor
that would allow you to make abstract figures, like a four-armed humanoid and so on.

Music is mentioned in the Future page under "Interface".
"Perhaps in certain contexts the player might play notes on an instrument.  These could be played through the speakers for added effect...  will have to look into it."
This doesn't look that HARD, compared to other things you did. We could also
associate specific notes and generated sounds to animals, but also to cultures, so
for example different civilizations/subcultures would automatically make musics with
different moods, notes and rhym. A war march would sound very different from a
drinking song!

Fix the starting material for weapons.

Some of the densities for materials are off. I may have already said this,but..
(pure)Gold is 19.3
Platinum is 21.45
Mercury is 13.6
Silver is 10.5
Ice has a density somewhat lower than that of Liquid Water. Probably around
0.95
Copper is 8.93
Nickel-Iron might be right at 7.4, but pure Iron is around 7.86

Also it would be nice to start thinking about the possibilities of basic
"alloys"with properties derived from the % of materials forming them.
Of course, you can't make alloys with everything. In the editor we could simply
select with which materials a material might be alloyed with. THEN we could
choose if the alloys properties are generated completely using some kind of calculations
OR we can customize the alloy while still allowing for different % of metals.
This is important not only for various kinds of steel, but also for
currencies...
So for example we could have different coins with different percentages of
gold and silver(from what I know, in the ancient world and in the Dark Ages all coins
had value because of the material they were made of - not because of the authority of the state who minted them).
Some smart guy might even try to cheat merchants by minting his coins using a much
lesser percentage of gold. Of course since most merchants aren't fools they could
check the coin's weight using a scale.

In Item Editors:
Implement components that are actually more than one part. Without this, you
can't do things like scale and chain mails.

[ August 27, 2005: Message edited by: Zonk ]

/Real Buildings (with Doors and Windows!)
|City Walls
|Roads
|Put in some decent creature AI (or at least begin)
|Starting conversation interface with shops
|Weapon and armor stores
|Combat style teachers
|Magic shops
|Curses (undead, etc.)
|Correct Post-Travel Mode Placement
|Refine the Civilization Entities
|Add Local Civilizations below the World Level
|Fix some strangely placed building bugs (yet to be created bugs, but there will be some)
\-----"Mayhem Visits the Quaint Thorpe" Release ------------------------

What about starting basic character generation in this version?

REALLY complex character generation should be complete in the "Life Beyond Curses and Dead

Parents"(hoping we get this far), but I'm just asking
for a decent form character creation...

At the moment you simply select name, race and sex/caste.
in "Mayhem Visits the Quaint Thorpe", you would be able to
choose name, race, and sex/caste...And then you would be able to
customize your character looks, stats and skills instead of getting
random ones.

1)You would be able to alter your looks by changing your height and deformations, of course you

won't be able to create a 100 feet tall human
with a 200' long snout instead of a nose(use the 'species editor'for these monstruosities!)t
you should be able to create an unique look for your character in
a nice way.

Also, you should be able to edit your hair, so you can play a bald man or one
with long flowing, savage-style hair. You could also decide if you want to have a bear,
a moustache or start 'clear-shaved'.

And some crazy person might create a bearded woman just for the fun of it...

2)Attributes: These would start at the default level based on race and
sex. In 'Life Beyond Curses and..."you should have some number of points to
spend, based on general difficulty of the game world/universe and
other things(if a common adventurer is 100 points and you decide to start
as 500 point character, your score when you die might be quite lower)...think GURPS.

Anyway, since I was speaking about simple character generation, we could
have that you could get attributes to raise some stats by lowering others,
on a 1:1 basis. Again, the maximum and minimum values should be limited
by your race and sex...So you won't be able to create an human with
Strength and Endurance around 400 by lowering all your mental stats
to 50 or so.
Note that this refers to normal attributes values. It might be possible,
in a complex editor, to also edit the potential and difficulty value
of the attributes, so you could create an human who, by some twist of
fortune, fate and genetics, starts adventuring quite weak in body(say Strength
about 80-90)but with training can increase his Strength relatively fast to 200.

3)IF this where complex character generation, you might be able to spend points
on various traits. We would have to do a big list of possibile special traits for human-like
character, possibly without introducing special mechanics...For example, a 'Thick Skin'trait,
that in other RPGs would simply reduce damage taken from slashing attacks, would, in our
wonderous Slaves to Armok: God of Blood, increase the hardness and thickness of your skin
by some amount(not too big, as we are still talking about an human, even if in a fantasy world),
and the game will take THAT in account when you are hit...Of course, if you want to have REALLY

thick and tough skin, you would need to be a mutant or have some horrible disfigurating

disease...I think
that 'horribile disfigurating diseases' and (innatural)mutations with some good bonuses
probably belong to 'Mayhem Visits the Quaint Thorpe'anyway. Anybody knows about Corpus?
Or you can play as a Rhinoceros. I once tried doing them with the editor...It wasn't a success,
mostly because the horn was flexible :-)

Anyway, we could have a 'Trait Editor'...It won't be too hard to do, I think...it would be

somewhat
similar to deformations/alterations for motifs. An example of some simple traits could be
Left-handness, Ambidextrity(from what I heard, a right-handed swordsman is at disadvantage
when fighting a left-handed one) or High Pain Threshold(basically
gives a bonus to willpower but only for resisting pain).

Also...Could it be possible to have variable sensory ranges even in the same species? So you
could play a short-sighted mage or an hawk-eyed archer? Or a cook with a very keen sense of smell
and taste? Or someone who is anosmic? The last could possibly be an advantage, because not feeling
tastes and smells can, in some situations, be a GOOD thing...Imagine being in the sewers surronded
by stinking ghouls. Scary. At the same time, you won't be able to feel the taste of poison
in your food and drink...

4)Starting Equipment

By the way, I DO know that Quaint Thorpe's  has already become an ENORMOUS release.

Also, I'm pasting this from the future page...
 " Character Creation:  There are lots of different philosophies here.  I still need to sort it

out…  characters might have complicated pregame histories based on the entities that are around.  

Unless the player starts in dire straits, he or she will probably start in a random known town or

a town that neighbors a known town.  Occasionally, the player might start in a completely

different place (perhaps this can be determined by the user).  The player should start in a family

(depending on their history), and the player might be able to play their heirs in subsequent games

if they leave any.  Someone suggested the possibility of starting as a toddler, although this

might be troublesome in certain ways. "

When are you going to add scars/models for wounds on creatures?

Also, I was starting to think about a sketch for a stock
'vampirism'curse...Note that there would also have to be some
'stock'undead traits.

VAMPIRISM:

Strength +50 actual value, +150 Potential(maybe make these % instead
of fixed values)
Intuition and Memory +20
Localized consciousness
No respiration
Circulation could be absent or present(maybe they only bleed after they feed?)
Body Temp:Meaningless, since they are undead...Altough they could
appear warm just after feeding
Can't pass out
Can't become nausated
an be stunned
Feels pain
I really dunno about 'uses energy'...
Skin and other tissues burn in sunlight
All tissues are somewhat more flammable

I would really welcome ideas and help.

At the moment I am defining the races/monsters and the important places of this world. I want to do something quite different from the standard orc/elf/human world, but not completely alien... So here are the things I defined for the moment...

1)Apart from the principal World, there are other 5 planets(Garand,Artas and Selpurio Hranius). I still dunno about the name for the principal world, and if these other 5 planets are inabithed.
2)There is one moon, and there are strange creatures in it. It is possible to reach it with strange magics.
3)The races/monsters I did at the moment
Humans
Elves: Ancient discendents of demons. NOT like your usual Tolkien or D&D elves. They are variable in that they can display various traits of demons.
Dwarves :Dark-skinned underground humanoid...Still dunno about other things to differentiate them from the dwarves of other worlds...
Stromoi:Massive humanoids, with near-transparent skin. They live on high cliffs and near the sea. They have the power to foresee the weather and maybe manipulate it. (They are A BIT inspired from storm giants)
Anguul: Amphibious humanoids who live in swamp. Very dextrous, their skin is covered in an slippery oil that can turn away some weak blows.
Alorqua: Big humanoids who live undergrounds. Skin the colour of marble, purple eyes, four arms. Somewhat civilizzed.
Trolls: Hunchbacked green-brown beasts,about 10' feet tall. They regenerate as most other fantasy trolls and need to eat a LOT.
Argash: Near-human race of ambidextrous and devious people. Eyes are similar to that of an insect, and they are said to be able to see through walls. They have some form of metabolism contro.
Grunden: Tought to be of cross between Subterrean demons and Dwarves. VERY sturdy. Elder Grunden can bond themselves to a metal or gem, gaining special powers.
Zrokki: Pale, thin humanoids. They have some psionic powers. They also DON'T have a nose and a sense of smell. But they have an excellent hearing, and they are known for their fantastic music.
Cerebral Vampire(I have to create a better name): Vaguely similar to normal vampires. But feeds by ripping the spinal cord from creatures and SUCKING the fluid from it... Sometimes it can gain the memories and skills of his victims... They are VERY ugly, pratically unable to pass as humans or near humans. They posses strange mental powers and, for unkown reasons, are vulnerable to copper(possibly killed by a copper stake?)
NOTE: there are also "normal"vampires.
Orcs:

Gurag: Vaguely similar to Efreets. They are near-human in appareance, and related to the element of Fire. Due to a pact they made with Demons/smiths a LONG time ago, they are immune to ANY forged weapons.

MONSTERS:

Catoblepa: Big Bovine(3000+ pounds) with green scales and terrible breath. Orcs drink their acid, milk, and some of their heroes ride them.

Swamp Things

Cloud Spider

By the way,Toadyone,do you known some cool,free scientific site?

tiger x60
frostgiant x173
hillgiant x75
cyclop x75

I have examined the new version...and thinked many things...
First of all,the good news...I have done and im continuing doing
these races:
"Generic"Bovine/Bull:i would have liked to do a cladeogram for them
but...Well,they have two castes...COW and BULL.
Tiger
Cyclop
Hill Giant
Frost Giant
Fire Giant
Troll.
I have sent them to Toadyone in case he wants to try or upload them
on the site.I HOPE HE DOES...even if they aren't very good...I
will make them better with time...For example the "internal"
body parts of some giants have not been adjusted in size.
I will do this when i have more time.
The giant races are the easiest to edit because they were made from
humans.I modified the sizes of body parts,colors and
melting and boiling point of the materials.The "tigers"
were made from "naked mode dogs".I also tried doing
snakes using the "serpent form"and ALMOST succeded.And i tried
creating an "ectopod"form to make spiders by editing ants.
But when i change the ants from "complex castes"to "gender",
they all their extra limbs...It's hard.I managed to do a "spider"
species but then deleted it because it was not to cool.
And cladeograms seem not to work.I thought you included
some of them,like rabbit for example.

Also,claws ALMOST work now!A dragon claw easily sever almost anything!
BUT...I said almost because you can only use "claw attacks"
as "default attacks!
IF YOU DELETE THE TOES/FINGER FROM THE COMBAT OPTIONS
AND THEN RE-ADD THEM,YOU WILL NO LONGER CLAW WITH THEM!
You will kick...Also...claw attacks use the KICKING skill..
not the CLAWING one...This is another bug.
If you want a race to be able to claw,you must set it in the
"DEFAULT ATTACKS"section of the editors.THIS IS BAD!
TOADYONE...Remember to add the possibility to always
use claw attack.This means that,when we choose a body
part that has growths usable in combat,we sohuld get
the option to choose what growth use.So one could
use his toes to "kick"if he wants...but i and most others
will use them to claw!

I think it would be REALLY GOOD if there was a command to
multiply/divide ALL sizes by a certain number.This would been
useful,especcialy to me,since i have done the "giants"species.
The "resize"command is useful...but i would like a multiplier/
divisor also.And i would like a copy/paste function in the
editor...it would be useful for persons like me who have to
do many similar body parts.

Also,in the "status description",at the "Brief Description of
Species",a lot of creatures are listed as "gigantic".But if one
reads the "detailed descriptions"of gender/castes,one notices
that this is not always true.
And....most creatures ARE TOO SMALL!Human weight,on the
average,25 kg.
IT LOOKS LIKE *ALL* CREATURE WEIGHTS HAVE BEEN DIVIDED BY 3.5555555.
FOR EXAMPLE TITANS ARE 9 MG NOW.BEFORE THEY WERE 32.
Maybe the problem is in the "creature materials density".
It would be easier to guess if we could have a written
number that indicates the creature height.

I also created a race of "steel humans".They are human that
have steel instead of skin,flesh and bone.I tried them...i
thought they would have been VERY hard to kill...But i did not
notice any important difference in combat..Strange...
So i deleted them.But i was thinking...so the game does not
take in account the stats/attributes of the material that
is hit?So,for example,the scales of the dragon give NO EXTRA
PROTECTION?Also...i did not known that scales did not regenerate
(heal).

AND,VERY IMPORTANT...in the material editor,you should remove the
10.0 limit!At the moment,ALL METALS have a density of 10...
So that means steel is as heavy as gold....I suppose density
is in the kg/decimeter cube format,right?So gold should have
a density of 19,something and steel 7,something.
And,since steel has a default hardness of 10,at the moment
it is impossible to do a metal harder than it,like adamantite...
Please correct this!By the way,there are some standard materials
like skin that have a default moistness/roughness above 10...
If you try to modify them,they become 10...
Also...now we have "alloys"as normal materials...think to...Steel
and Bronze...how will other alloys be handled in future?Will
there be an "Alloy"material class for them?Or will they
be created by the game?

ANOTHER *VERY*important thing is that,if im right,the editor
does not allow to edit possible grasp.This is probably related
to the bug that does NOT delete a grasp when his body part
is severed.For example,i had characters in surviver mode who
got an hand severed and still had the grasp of that hand.
Maybe grasps are collegated to the "movement group"of body parts?
It seems not to me...Please add the possibility to put grasps
in the editor!

Also,this is normal but read it...try changing the upper
and lower body of a quadruped from SAC to APPENDAGE and see what
happens to the model of the lower body in the game.
The lower/rear body RISES UP!I think this has to do with the
"posture"section...but i cannot manage to use it well!
Another bug of models is that,in game,if you turn around the
camera in a certain way,the MODEL DISSAPEARS.And when you turn
from window to full screen,the models loose texture.
Also the "item"models OFTEN dissapear...especcialy the body part
ones.

For this i bug i had to delete the "croccodile"race that i
created...

LAST...WE NEED MORE POSSIBLE MODELS!FOR EXAMPLE I WOULD REALLY
LIKE THE MODELS FOR HORNS,WINGS AND THE LIKE!I ALSO WOULD
LIKE THE MODELS FOR INTERNAL ORGANS LIKE HEARTS AND BRAINS.
At the moment,to do horns im using the "spike"building
block and the"point" model.If i use the "Horn"building block...
I get VERY short horns...even if i modify the "Lenght to Width"
value.
And im putting them as "adjunt"body parts,not growths,since
there are problems with using growths in attacks(i talked
about them above).And you can't use models for growths...
We need MODELS for GROWTHS!And models and building blocks
for cones!

I also would like the motif and forms for invertebrates like
worms.Will we have to wait for water to have creatures
like octopuses,lobsters and amphibians?

and,at last...a CRASH bug!
If you try to play a race that has the "Has soul/mental
attributes)?"flag set to NO...the game crashes!
The same if you try to play a race that has a body
part without tissues...but this is a "feature",i think.

For the rest,the editors ARE VERY COOL!Yes,they are a hard to use...
But not impossible :-) The only problem is that i just cannot
use the model editor?By the way,did any of you also create
a "almost complete/playable"race?If yes...please send it to Toadyone
or me(my email is davides88@yahoo.it).
I really like to know what strange creatures spelguru and
our Great God Of Kobolds have created :-)
By the way,KOBOLD ARE COOL!They have nice deformations and
posture!They are very kobold-like!Goblins are also nice
but i prefer them green...I think i will edit goblins to make
orcs.
Humans are also well done...except for some things like they
have about 50 teeths :-) And they have no "rib cage".
Also,someone talked about things like "knees"and "elbows".
I mean joints.I noticed there IS a "joint"building block...
but i don't think it is easy to use.

I also think it would be very cool to hair display again...

For the next release...could you explain us better what it
means that there will be "biomes"and "ecosystems"?I studied
them at school...but i can't understand how they will be
in Armok...every creature will have his place,right?
And plants will be found ALMOST all the world...they won't have
their "kingdom/empire/dominiom"like the other species,right?
About ecosystems...the editor does not allows to choose a creature
diet.I have also read that you will had
When you do ecosystems,plese add more terrain types...Like
swamp and desert.And,also,you wrote you will do abstract
clusters...they also look cool...for example clusters of ant
or rock(usable as weapons..not thrown).But will the ant/worms/
beetles clusters actually have a species file?Of course
i talk about SMALL beetles/ant/worms...And remember to create
a stock intelligent plany race that can move.
AND FIX THE HEALING RATE FOR TISSUES!If i put an healing rate
of 1000000,it says it heals "very slowly".But if i put 20000 it
says "at an average rate"...we need to be be able to make
tissues that regenerate super fast...especcialy me to
make trolls stronger and better!

Also,remember that you said that you will enable CRUSHING
when you will enable vegetation...so we can crush fruits...
and bodies!

For thoose who don't known,the plan for the next version is:

/Vegetation
|Biomes
|Ecosystems
|Ground Debris of All Kinds (rocks, twigs, worms, beetles, ants, etc.) -- this will require "abstract" item and creature clusters
|Improved Travel Interface
|Viewing the World Map
|Fix some hairy plant bugs (yet to be created bugs, but there will be some)
\-----"The Game Finally Has Trees" Release ---------------

Since Toadyone has his "Plan"..I also have one..this is the
list,probably in order of time,of what im trying to do:

/Write A LOT more things in the manual im doing...including
|help on the editor.Though i cant understand well some things
|like the "posture"of body parts.
|Create some horned creature...rhinoceros?.Or maybe
|minotaurs?But there are problems with putting horns
|on the front of the head of the creature...the horn gets
!displayed hanging down
|Get my school books and use them to add new materials to the
|stock file(i will need that the 10 limit is removed),plus
|i think i will add my version of mithril and adamantium.And,
|of course,IRON.We have steel.But not iron.And a stone material
|other than obsidian.
|Manage to do a a fair-looking spider,or...A SCORPION!!!
|One or more dinosaur races.With or without the humanoid form.
|For example,t-rex,velociraptors,brontosauruses...

\-----Zonk's Incredible Plan-------------------

By the way...Toadyone,remember that you said that,in the magic
version,you will also had some other things like TEMPERATURE!
Since i set that frost giant blood boils at low temperatures...
It will be fun for them to go in the desert :-)
And remember that there is still some cleanup to do..
especcialy you should do the more important things...i copied
here things from your "cleanup"list that i consider more important
than others:

More Text Messages (Like When You Wake Up From Sleeping)
Clear Statement of Creature Height
Tissues and Some Parts Have No Weight
Put Containers Back In
Can't Stop Applying Pressure to a Wound
Make Those Circles Surrounding Creatures Different Sizes
Hit Location Should Also Respect Facing of the Target
Weapon Fragments Weigh as Much as the Original Weapon
Damaged Weapons Weigh as Much as the Original Weapon
Missing Messages for Weapon Breakage
Missing Messages for Certain Weapon Drops
Certain Actions Should Interfere With the Application of Pressure
(eg If You Attack With the Pressure Applier)
Sometimes You Can't Move Through Certain Spaces, Even Though Nothing
Is Blocking You
Vision Blockage Has Been Completely Disabled
With That, Hearing Messages Were Also (Mostly) Disabled
Energy Costs For Actions Are Very Arbitrary (In a Bad Way) In Some
Cases

Titan Broad Swords and Titans:At the moment,Titans have a little
problem with their "Titan"Broad Sword...it's VERY easy for them to
loose them when they get hit...much easier than an human with an
"human"broad sword...i think this should be fixed.

Movement speed(and burden)should affect energy.
For example,sprinting should make you consume a LOT OF ENERGY.

Also "normal"fighting should be tiring(Example:Human vs human,both
humans should tire)
Putting more force in your blows should make you tire faster.
Maybe at the beggining of game the force of your blows is NOT
to the max...putting the force at the max is considered "Berserker"

Currently,when you reach the LIMIT of the world you just have an
invisible sky-blue wall that blocks you...
it would be cool if there was no limit(if the current world was round
like Earth)

I think tails could be used in stances(SOME types of tails).
Some animals use their tails to balance themselves.

A question:What is the "3d models"release supposed to do?
3d models allow us to see VISUALLY when our hero loses a limb,right?
(If the hero loses a leg the player figure would be a one/three legged
creature)

Also,i cannot put the fullscren mode because it says my videocard
and resolution do not allow it..i mean i can USE the fullscren mode,
but the game is NOT in fullscreen...