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Other Games / Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« on: December 13, 2010, 08:11:24 pm »
Quote from: bloodsheder on December 13, 2010, 08:08:41 pm
Quote from: Ioric Kittencuddler on December 13, 2010, 08:06:27 pm
Quote from: Cthulhu on December 13, 2010, 07:39:38 pm
PCs and consoles are both great, for different reasons.  The problem is that lately they've been porting all of the drawbacks from one system to the other.  Sold separately external hard drives on consoles, matchmaking on PCs, buggy-ass "we'll just patch it later" games on consoles, console controls on PCs, etc.

Neither of them are dead though.  There's still plenty of quality new games being developed for each.  Valve lurve PC, Crytek's games would kick a 360's ass, and so on.

You do know that Crysis 2 is being developed for consoles right?
yea but they are tweaking the engine to reduce to the massive system needs a console can't handle (well the ps3 should be able to handle it).

Which is my point.  They're lowering the technical quality of it so the consoles can handle it with their ancient hardware and 512 megs of RAM.

Same thing they did with Oblivion.

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Other Games / Re: Elder scrolls V: Skyrim
« on: December 13, 2010, 08:07:58 pm »
Quote from: Dakk on December 13, 2010, 07:47:55 pm
RAI trailer?

The Radiant AI trailer in which they explicitly state that everything happening is due to the Radiant AI when in reality it was all scripted.

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Other Games / Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« on: December 13, 2010, 08:06:27 pm »
Quote from: Cthulhu on December 13, 2010, 07:39:38 pm
PCs and consoles are both great, for different reasons.  The problem is that lately they've been porting all of the drawbacks from one system to the other.  Sold separately external hard drives on consoles, matchmaking on PCs, buggy-ass "we'll just patch it later" games on consoles, console controls on PCs, etc.

Neither of them are dead though.  There's still plenty of quality new games being developed for each.  Valve lurve PC, Crytek's games would kick a 360's ass, and so on.

You do know that Crysis 2 is being developed for consoles right?

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Other Games / Re: Elder scrolls V: Skyrim
« on: December 13, 2010, 07:45:14 pm »
Quote from: Dakk on December 13, 2010, 07:41:30 pm
Apparently they're using an engine similar to the one Id Software is using on their Rage title. They're not using Id tech 5 because apparently it is not appropriate for an open world game. What the new engine entails for TES V is left to speculation until we get a gameplay trailer though, and that will take at the very least a few months.

And even then it could just be faked like they did with the RAI trailer so the only way to really know anything for sure is to play the game. :-\

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Other Games / Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« on: December 13, 2010, 06:34:38 pm »
This is a MMORPG you're talking about right?  I mean, you really think there'll be any of that stuff in an MMORPG?

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Other Games / Re: Elder scrolls V: Skyrim
« on: December 13, 2010, 06:33:32 pm »
Quote from: jmancube on December 13, 2010, 06:31:11 pm
Weren't the gods that the imperials worshiped good (although I forget whether they existed or not). You are correct about the daedra, they are generally sort of in a gray area. There are a couple that are generally destructive/evil like Mehrunes Dagon, but there are also a couple of 'good' ones like Azura.

No that was just part of the mass genericization project known as Oblivion.  Play Daggerfall if you want to see what what the nine divines are really like.

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Other Games / Re: "PC Gaming Is Dead"
« on: December 13, 2010, 06:12:00 pm »
Tell her that Mainstream PC gaming is dead (or at least abandoned bleeding in an alley), but that's been replaced by a huge number of quality indie companies and if she doesn't count that, well, frankly she's an idiot.

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Other Games / Re: Elder scrolls V: Skyrim
« on: December 13, 2010, 03:36:57 pm »
Quote from: Dakk on December 13, 2010, 03:20:53 pm
Quote from: AntiAntiMatter on December 13, 2010, 03:09:04 pm
I think that the main quest should not be designed so that you are inextricably bound to it by the time you finish the tutorial, which it should be separate from. You should have to look to find it (though not too hard).

Pretty much this. I wish the game wouldn't grab your hand and scream YOU'RE THE DESTINED ONE YOU MUST SAVE THE WORLD FROM EVIL HERE FIND THIS PERSON AND SEEK YOUR DESTINY ARGUE BARGLE. The main plot could happen independently from you, and you could have the choice of participating or not. If you did not, things could escalate badly, or another hero could show up, or you could join the other side and step on everyone's necks, etc.

But then how would the game tell you you're the epic chosen one who is destined to save the world from some random thing or another.

Quote from: Cheese on December 13, 2010, 02:54:49 pm
The Elder Scrolls has actual lore which is often revealed through in game books, which give you a lot of interesting info for reading into the details. Personally, I think this reduces neccesity for a strong main storyline but yes, Oblivion's was crappy.

Yeah, I really liked the lore.  Shame Oblivion crapped all over it and either rewrote or ignored practically everything that was relevant to it.  Hell, the whole plot of the game is based around ignoring the fact that the empire was ruled by a non-Septim line on several occasions, and that whole legend was basically just propaganda designed by the dynasty itself to help keep it's power.

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Other Games / Re: Next Elder Scrolls
« on: December 13, 2010, 03:09:26 pm »
I'm argumentative?

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Other Games / Re: Elder scrolls V: Skyrim
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:35:41 am »
Quote from: Kitsunin on December 13, 2010, 09:19:05 am
I just thought of something horrible, what if there isn't mod support in this new game  :-X

Naah...that couldn't happen...could it?

If it were any other series I'd say yes but considering how iconic TES games' construction set has become I'm not going to speculate until we hear more.

And hey, at least the first info they gave us wasn't that there would be a popular celebrity voice actor who only appears in the first 15 of the game.

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Other Games / Re: Metro 2033
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:23:56 am »
Quote from: Saint on December 13, 2010, 09:06:57 am
I hate you and your hate for good games.

Hey at least he's honest about it.  Most people who hate this type of game can't even comprehend that there are other types of games than CoD and the like.

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Other Games / Re: Next Elder Scrolls
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:20:10 am »
It's not a good game because you can change everything about it if it's only good after you change everything about it.

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Other Games / Re: Elder scrolls V: Skyrim
« on: December 13, 2010, 09:15:56 am »
Well fantasy to Todd Howard is a knight riding around on a horse and killing things.  His words.

About the Mage Guild.  It doesn't matter if you're a vampire.  You know that part where the old archmage suddenly keels over for no apparent reason after making you archmage?  Well that's because he for some reason decided that the only way to defeat that pansy ass Altmer King of Worms bastardization was to entrap his soul in the soul crystal you'd given him, which would protect you from Mannimarco's powers of paralysis.  Being a vampire has nothing to do with it, though I'm not in the least bit surprised that they didn't take that possibility into account.

Speaking of Altmer... What the crap was with the Altmer villains in this game?  They made the King of Worms, a some super lich necromancer, into a fairly weak Altmer mage.  And even more weird, they made the big bad of the game, the son of two Bosmer, an Altmer as well.

And speaking of the mage's guild, am I the only one that felt like the whole premise behind it was completely idiotic?  I mean, basically the only reason you're fighting the necromancers is because the new archmage suddenly decided to ban necromancy for no apparent reason and hunt down all it's practitioners.  Then when it turns out they're a bit tougher to massacre than he'd hoped you come along, his guardian angel of death.  Yay, you saved us from the oppressed minority's attempts to continue existing!  A hero is you!  Also here's a chest that gets filled with fairly useless crap on an irregular basis.

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Other Games / Re: Next Elder Scrolls
« on: December 13, 2010, 08:45:04 am »
Quote from: Antioch on December 12, 2010, 05:22:32 pm
I think Oblivion was a good improvement over Morrowind gameplay wise, but it was flawed in content. Mainly because of the exessive use of leveled list. I f they would just tweak a few things they might actually produce a very nice game.

But seeing were the game market is going I really doubt it.

I have to disagree the animations were better, but still bad.  The combat was more actiony but not necessarily better unless you consider more actiony to be better.  Those leveled lists were kind of a huge part of gameplay too considering that one of the first things anyone suggests for enjoying the game is to download a mod that fixes the level scaling.  There were less weapon types and the skills were non-sensically combined.  Despite the supposed streamlining of the character system the level up process had just been made completely broken.  The RPG style persuasion skill was replaced with a completely nonsensical and crappy minigame.  The lockpick skill got a really annoying lockpicking minigame.  They removed flight spells and flying creatures completely, apparently because of the Xbox 360's hardware limitations combined with their apparent inability or simply lack of sufficient giving a damn to code their game decently caused them to make all the cities be inside their own cells which brought on a bunch of other problems.  Of course the fact that this meant that they no longer had to take 3 dimensional movement into account when designing the world probably wasn't a negative for them as well.  The interface was a clunky and consolized.  Etc... etc... etc...

I almost wonder if Bethesda didn't blow all the work they supposedly put into RAI on making some sort of subliminal mind control software that is undetectable except in it's ability to cause most people to inexplicably like this game

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Other Games / Re: Metro 2033
« on: December 12, 2010, 03:00:41 pm »
I only tend to knitpick games if they don't draw me in.  Oblivion for example had a piece of feces for a plot and flies for characters, and the gameplay was like a single player MMORPG with a smaller world, and without the generally balanced (or for that matter working) gameplay mechanics.  Assassin's Creed however had a really fascinating plot and good core gamplay so even though the gameplay was repetitive and the characters may not have been the most interesting I liked it overall.  AC2 and Brotherhood improved the gameplay and made the characters much more interesting so about the only thing I really hate is the camera when trying to make sharp turns and the erratically unreliable targeting.  Overall I liked them. 

Metro 2033 has some bugs, and the stealth isn't that great, but it's got such awesome attention to detail (which due to it's general dearth in gaming I'm a sucker for) and it had likable characters and a compelling plot and fantastic atmosphere.  Hell even the guys who never took off their masks were likable.

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