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In adventure mode of game version 0.31.25, after extensive exercising of my attributes with macros using several starting characters, the best I can figure is that any character is limited to an attribute rank three levels higher than what that character started with. At most, you can improve a stat by three ranks.

Of course, the ranks are:

super<race>
superior
high
above average
average
low
very low

So if I started with "very low," the best I was ever able to become was "above average." If I started as "average," the best I could achieve was "superior," and so on. Often, attribute increase is progressing quite steadily as it reaches this maximum, after which improvement ceases rather abruptly (after as little as two and a half straight game days of nothing but exercise).

If you look at the numbers in the previous post, this is a different result than would be the case if attributes were capped at twice their initial value at character generation. Perhaps this discrepancy is due to differing release versions; I don't know.

I think that if you're concerned about possible realistic environmental impacts of a large settlement, you don't have to look to unimplemented bodily functions. Just think about the solid waste problem. The way it's dealt with now is to have an infinite amount of waste stored in a single square. Before that, it was dealt with (I gather) by disposal within a bottomless "chasm." I think realistic landfilling, recycling centers, and maybe even cogeneration (so to speak) furnaces which could burn waste and power a forge or something are all possibilities.

Just as another data point, I didn't have any trouble picking a location to start digging. If you need more room for something, dig it out. If things need to be rearranged, break them down and rearrange them. I knew going in that my first fort wasn't going to be ideal. Half the fun for me is figuring out improvements for next time, and doing modifications to the current design.

Although, maybe it helped that I didn't know there was a z-axis when I started.

You mean there's no way to tell them to wait behind the walls and fire through fortifications? I'm in the middle of my first real battle, against a hill titan, and I'm wondering why my dwarves are all running singly headlong toward suicide rather than letting it come to them.

Massive support. (Edit: Nice subject line too.)

Okay, so how do you use a wild duck carcass? Are they good for anything besides target practice?

So how are ducks cooked? I have four in my larder above the kitchen, and the cook is saying there's nothing to cook. They don't seem to be rotten.

This is interesting, because I was just thinking about having corpse-pile depth be quantized the same way as fluid depth. This would allow a goblin horde to swarm a fortress and swamp it under its own corpses, with new goblins climbing over old, dead ones until they build a large corpse ramp. This idea is borrowed from a Xanth fantasy novel (can't remember which one) by Piers Anthony some decades back.

Obviously it's just a daydream; there are implementation issues with this which may be insurmountable.

But another possible reason, why hills are so important, is military purpose. Those cities/towns on defensive positions are chosen early as strongholds, so they started small on the top[...].

Good point. I've read about this in a book discussing archaeology.